Re: Python code error in F39, but not in F38

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On Wed Nov22'23 08:12:58AM, George N. White III wrote:
> From: "George N. White III" <gnwiii@xxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2023 08:12:58 -0400
> To: Community support for Fedora users <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Reply-To: Community support for Fedora users <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Python code error in F39, but not in F38
>
> On Sun, Nov 19, 2023 at 2:02 PM Ranjan Maitra via users <
> users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > On Sun Nov19'23 05:35:19PM, Barry wrote:
> > > From: Barry <barry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2023 17:35:19 +0000
> > > To: Community support for Fedora users <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >  >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > It is possible that there is a bug in the code itself, but nothing
> > above
> > > > points to my created code.
> > > >
> > > > Any suggestions? Or is this a bug?
> > >
> > > Are you using C extensions in your code? If so I would suspect them for
> > corrupting python. I think you can get into gdb inside the core file with
> > coredumpctl debug.
> >
> > The python code calls a shared object library that is written in C. But
> > why does this core dump only happen in F39 (python 3.12) and not with
> > F38 (python 3.11)?
> >
>
> There were some big changes in 3.12 (driven by the need to support Fortran
> on
> Windows and macOS by replacing very old gfortran version with flang-new).
> I havrn't
> had time to look at what is being used in linux, but you could get a quick
> overview from
> ldd.  See: <
> https://discuss.python.org/t/why-scipy-builds-for-python-3-12-on-windows-are-a-minor-miracle-especially-in-conda-forge/38270
> >
>
> There is also new build system, so a lot of work getting everything working
> in 3.12.  Meanwhile
> you can run 3.11 stuff using python environments.
>

Thanks! Interesting, I wonder if that is also what has caused tensorflow to not go up to 3.12 for now. From what I read somewhere (I think on an archived tensorflow mailing list or something) the linux builds are up, but not the MacO$ and Windoze builds. Both of which, if I had my way, should never have been allowed even indirectly into any professional environment.

Ranjan
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