F38 - Error in file transfer to flip phone after system update

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F38 with Xfce:

I have two Android phones I copy files to:

My Samsung A01 smartphone
My wifes's LG VN220 flipphone

With my phone when I mount, I am queried on the phone to allow which I do then can transfer.

For the VN220, I go into settings and switch USB Connection to file transfer, attach and mount the phone then just transfer files.

So today I did a big update; probably has been a couple weeks since the last.

Afterwards, I rebooted.  Then moved some files to the A01.  No problem.

Then tried the VN220.  It created the directories but cannot transfer files.  Thunar just freezes.  I have to crash it.

I got to get some files on the phone for the wife.  Where do I look for what might be not working?

thanks
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