I will pay money to simplify the config and/or the mess such that it is easier to get working and/or easier to keep working. 2 different cards from 2 vendors is going to be difficult to get working and difficult to keep working. If you are going to have to add/buy cards and/or buy a 2nd KVM for the second set ouptuts to monitors then you are likely already close to 1/2 way to the outright cost of the 4k device. And the new 4k tv (monitors are expensive, tv's are not) simplifies everything. Sometimes using what you have is way more expensive in time and sometimes money. On Fri, Oct 6, 2023 at 3:24 PM Patrick Dupre <pdupre@xxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > so you want a dual-dual-monitor setup with a KVM. > > > > Have you considered getting a single large 4k monitor/tv instead of 2 > > smaller ones(assuming the smaller ones are 1080p)? That would > > simplify a lot of what you would need to buy. > > Sure, but I already have the 2 monitors and the 2 PCs. > > > > > I am running a 4k TV across 2 machines, physically it is 43" and I > > have the usable resolution/space of 4 22" 1080P monitors. The color > > on my TV is decent and it is a cheap 4k tv ($220 + tax), so may not be > > much more expensive that the hardware needed to implement the above. > > > > I use the TV input/remote switch + a USB keyboard-mouse switch to > > switch control from one to the other. On one of the machines I have > > a second small monitor(not on a switch) off to the side showing stuff > > I always want to be displayed(outside cameras). > > > > On Fri, Oct 6, 2023 at 11:06 AM Patrick Dupre <pdupre@xxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > I am sorry for the confusion. > > > I am attaching a pdf to clarify my approach. > > > > > > The question is about what to set in PC1. > > > The VGA port cannot be used for this setup. > > > Option 1: > > > try to use the DVI of the MB and > > > add a graphics card with one DP port > > > Option 2: > > > add a dual port DP/DP video card, with a converter DP to DVI > > > Option 3: > > > try to use the DVI of the MB and > > > add a USB-C card with a converter USB-C to DP > > > Option 4: > > > add a dual USB-C card with a converter USB-C to DP and USB-C to DVI. > > > Option 5 > > > add a dual port DP/DVI video card > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Friday, October 06, 2023 at 4:48 PM > > > > From: "Roger Heflin" <rogerheflin@xxxxxxxxx> > > > > To: "Community support for Fedora users" <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > Subject: Re: Monitors > > > > > > > > ok. that makes a bit more sense. And by KVM he means just > > > > keyboard-mouse since he has 2 monitors and does not need the video > > > > and/or the video is separated by monitor. > > > > > > > > I am not sure what he is trying to do given this setup. Depending on > > > > what he is trying to do, there may be easier ways to do what he wants. > > > > > > > > Then the question becomes what will X/wayland allow you to separate. > > > > With 2 separate video cards of some sort that should be safer, I am > > > > not sure 2 X/wayland instances would play nice with the same video > > > > card but underlying 2 monitors. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 6, 2023 at 8:31 AM Patrick O'Callaghan > > > > <pocallaghan@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 2023-10-06 at 05:55 -0500, Roger Heflin wrote: > > > > > > I don't believe KVM allows separation by video port. I think you can > > > > > > only give a KVM the entire card. And even if KVM allowed you to give > > > > > > it a single port I think X/Wayland assumes total control of the card > > > > > > and cards ram (I could be wrong, but that would require knowing about > > > > > > the 2nd instance and playing nice with each other, and that seems > > > > > > like > > > > > > a lot of work so, and even if it was done it probably does not work > > > > > > right). I don't think #1 will work, #4 would work so long as you > > > > > > have 2 usb-c converters. > > > > > > > > > > > > What are you doing inside the KVM that you need to give it a real > > > > > > video card? Or does the virtual one simply work that bad? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I suspect some confusion about the meaning of KVM. I think the OP means > > > > > a physical Keyboard-Video-Mouse switch, not the kernel virtual machine > > > > > system. > > > > > > > > > > poc > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > > > > > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > > > > > List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > > > > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > > > > List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue > > > >_______________________________________________ > > > users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > > > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > > > List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue > > _______________________________________________ > > users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > > List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue > > > _______________________________________________ > users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
