Michael D. Setzer II: >> Question? If that is so, why couldn't they modify their Linux >> pre-installed setup to have it set, rather than forcing everyone >> else to have to have it as default? Because we're the poor buggas who debug their ideas... But I agree. If you're creating commercial installations that have to adhere to some illusory green-washing principle you really shouldn't be using stock installations but a custom one. The average home user switches their PC off when it's not in use, and expects it to stay switched on when they want it. The non-average PC user that leaves their PC on for extended hours, or 24/7 has done so on purpose because that's what they want it to do. And quite frankly, I can imagine chaos in the IT department of a business that has to deal with multiple employee PCs going dormant at inopportune moments. Computers going tits-up because the worker was on a phone call that took longer than the impatience period, had to do something away from the desk, lunch breaks, whatever... >> Wonder how many people are going to be reporting machines as >> broken since they keep shutting down because of thie FEATURE... Me too. Richard Shaw: > In my case my computer becomes completely unresponsive. Neither > pressing reset, or holding down the power button have any effect > forcing me to use the power supply switch. Not a very good end user > experience. Those of us who've been around here long enough remember that a great number of computers fail spectacularly at suspending, hibernating, and resuming. Sometimes its the hardware, it's never going to manage it. Sometimes it's the software, they've gone about it in an ill-conceived manner, or expected all hardware to work in some particular way. As a general rule, manufacturers only test against Windows compatibility. And if they find a problem, and if they decide to bother with a solution, it'll be a Windows patch, rather than fixing up their hardware. -- NB: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the list. The following system info data is generated fresh for each post: uname -rsvp Linux 6.2.15-100.fc36.x86_64 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Thu May 11 16:51:53 UTC 2023 x86_64 _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue