I filed https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2177722 for my original problem (involving non-DE logins) and it was indeed fixed with the latest systemd updates in both F37 and F38. I know other people have reported it happening in GNOME but have never seen it personally. There are closed bugs and some open bugs for what you're describing, for example https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2162708 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2173394 so check Bugzilla. _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue