> On 8 Jan 2023, at 01:54, Stephen Morris <samorris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On 8/1/23 09:55, Barry wrote: >> >>>> On 7 Jan 2023, at 15:42, Tim via users <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> >>> Tim: >>>>> I have to ask, since I see a lot of grubby posts (pun intended): >>>>> >>>>> I've *NEVER* run grub2-mkconfig. I've always just yum/dnf update (do >>>>> all current updates), or just dnf update kernel (if I wanted to >>>>> specifically just do that), and it's always installed the new kernel >>>>> properly all by itself. No further action was required by me. >>> >>> >>> Jonathan Billings: >>>> You should never need to run grub2-mkconfig after each kernel update. >>>> The only reason I can guess at is that they ran it to overwrite the >>>> file in /boot/efi/EFI/fedora/ (which is normally a stub that loads >>>> the default file in /boot/grub2/) and now they have to manually run >>>> it each time. >>>> >>>> Normally, the only reason you’d run it is if you changed a variable >>>> in /etc/default/grub. Grubby just creates new bootloaderspec files in >>>> /boot/loader. >>> Somewhere along the line I removed "rhgb" from there, one way or >>> another (*), I don't recall ever running grub2-mkconfig, and I've >>> certainly never run it at every kernel update. >>> >>> * I don't recall which method I used to remove it from the kernel >>> command line, but it's not in there, and my system is running fine. >>> >>> It's the one change I make to booting up Linux, I want to see that it's >>> actually booting and not jammed. And if it has, I want to see where, >>> straight away, no horsing around after the fact. Blank bootup screens >>> are one of the dumbest things about certain other OSs that Linux has >>> copied. >> Like you i remove rhgb and also quiet so i can see what is happening. >> But I think it is fine to not do this by default. >> We experts can remove this with a grubby command is 2s and the none >> experts do not get to worry about the boot noise. > I have left the rhgb and quiet settings in there and if I want to see the boot details then I will use the ESC key to turn on the details. That ESC does not always work. Especially when I really need to see the messages. Barry > > regards, > Steve > >> >> Barry >> >>> -- >>> >>> uname -rsvp >>> Linux 3.10.0-1160.81.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Fri Dec 16 17:29:43 UTC 2022 x86_64 >>> >>> Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. >>> I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ >>> List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines >>> List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue >> _______________________________________________ >> users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ >> List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines >> List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue > _______________________________________________ > users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue