> On 30 Nov 2022, at 16:59, Luna Jernberg <droidbittin@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Discord is not using IRC its a closed echosystem I meant irc like… not that it was an irc client. Barry > >> On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 5:57 PM Barry <barry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> >> >>>> On 30 Nov 2022, at 14:19, Tim via users <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> >>> On Tue, 2022-11-29 at 22:32 +0000, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >>>> While we're on the topic: all the GNOME mailing lists are moving to >>>> Discourse (similar to HyperKitty but much *much* worse). The ostensible >>>> reasons for this included "better control of spam" and "Mailman depends >>>> on Python 2", the latter being clearly nonsense as the Fedora lists run >>>> on Mailman3 - which is why we have this HyperKitty crock in the first >>>> place. (Note that GNOME hosting is provided by Red Hat, so go figure.) >>> >>> My experience with using Discourse is as a phone app. It's reminiscent >>> of IRC (live chat via text, group voice chat, file sending). As I >>> recall, it has origins in the gaming fraternity, one of those group >>> VOIP things used alongside their networked games. >> >> The irc app is discord, not discourse, and yes its big in gamer circles. >> >> Barry >> >>> >>> Live stuff suits some people. I can see its value in allowing >>> diagnosing an issue in real time. But that's dependent on responders >>> being there at the same time. And there can be too much noise going >>> on. I dabbled with IRC decades ago, but left it and never returned. >>> Spending all night chatting with strangers about whatever was just >>> eating up my spare time. >>> >>> Email is good for people spread across multiple timezones, who can wait >>> for more than one response. Who'd like to post the "argh, I need help" >>> post as they give up on an issue and would like to tackle it tomorrow. >>> It's good for people who have some spare time to read through the days >>> posts, and respond where they can. It's far less demanding on you. I >>> can keep easily tabs on all the things going on in here (and easily >>> find old posts on something), I can't do that with discourse, or web >>> forums, that require clicking all over the place. Not to mention that >>> I have lots of other non-Fedora things I'm interested in. >>> >>> It can have an searchable archive, but any time I've googled for the >>> solution to an issue, it's never returned a Fedora mail archive result >>> for me. I usually get Ubuntu forum results, often useless >>> (inapplicable, or answers from the floundering clueless). Sometimes >>> Reddit (of about a similar quality to the Ubuntu forums). >>> >>> Does this archive exclude google? Even if it didn't, no matter what >>> medium you use, you can still get multiple people asking the same >>> question, because they (we) don't search first. Mind you, though, I >>> keep tabs on all the threads in here while I'm idle, so I've a fair >>> idea if someone else has brought up a subject I've got an interest in. >>> But it tends to be new issues that I see, I haven't noticed the >>> multiple people asking the same question issue that used to plague some >>> other mailing lists I was on many years ago. >>> >>> -- >>> >>> NB: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. >>> I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the list. >>> >>> The following system info data is generated fresh for each post: >>> >>> uname -rsvp >>> Linux 5.19.15-201.fc36.x86_64 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Thu Oct 13 >>> 18:58:38 UTC 2022 x86_64 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ >>> List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines >>> List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue >> _______________________________________________ >> users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ >> List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines >> List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue > _______________________________________________ > users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
