Re: It's a brick :-<(

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> On 20 Nov 2022, at 18:51, D. Hugh Redelmeier <hugh@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> | From: Geoffrey Leach <geoffleach.gl@xxxxxxxxx>
> 
> | Tip of the hat to whoever created the Fedora Live troubleshooting. It has
> | (at least) gparted, fdisk, fsck, smartctl and badblocks. Seems like that
> | should be enough for my purposes. (Aside from a hammer :-)
> | 
> | Interestingly, the first three do not find any issues. badblocks froze the
> | system. smartctl is running, so we'll see
> 
> I'm not sure that there are any use-cases for badblocks(8) on a modern
> disk.  All modern disks want to handle bad blocks themseleves, behind
> the scenes.
> 
> When a bad block is detected during a write by the disk controller, it
> maps the block to another block it takes from a pool of spares.  There
> are few ways to observe this:
> 
> - one of the S.M.A.R.T. counts goes up
> 
> - there may have been an extra bit of latency due to this procedure.
> 
> When a bad block is detected during a read by the controller, it
> retries in case that works.  If so, it will remap the block on the
> assumption that that the original block is no longer reliable.
> If retrying fails, the drive reports that failure.

Mapping of bad blocks only happens on write.
So multiple reads of a bad block will consistently fail.

Barry

> 
> Generally speaking, the correct things to do upon a real disk read
> failure is:
> 
> - backup your disks in case subsequent steps curdle your data.
> 
> - determine what file-system structure just took a bullet.  You might
>  have to recover from a backup.  If the hit is to metadata, an fsck(8)
>  might be able to fix it.
> 
> - after these forensics, write something to the bad block.  The
>  controller will automatically remap the block.
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