On Mon, 2022-10-10 at 14:40 +0000, Beartooth wrote: > I run dnf clean all, followed by dnf upgrade, on all my machines, > all on F36, daily. (I don't necessarily reboot, even if there's a > kernel change. Should I?) Unless an odd problem has cropped up (with their repo, or something going really bad on your own system), there's no need to do a clean all. You will need to reboot to use a new kernel (likewise with some other system files) unless you've mastered the dark art of switching to a new kernel on a running system. I wonder if you're thinking you need to do "clean all" to solve a problem that's actually caused by not rebooting after crucial updates. > Firefox demands its own updates, including its own reboot, whensoever > it damn pleases, and won't lift an electronic finger till it gets its > way. On a Mac, I get Firefox self-checking for updates regularly (if I allow the option), but other than a prompt that I should update it, or a prompt to restart it to apply the downloaded update, I'm not prevented from using it. On the Mac, it'll download the update but not install it until you say yes. And it's only Firefox I have to restart, not a whole system reboot. Once you install a Firefox update you will have to quit all running instances of Firefox so it loads the new version. Not just so that you're using the new, rather than the old, version. But because Firefox doesn't handle continuing to run when you've replaced its files (at least that's been my experience over several years). On various Linuxes, my Firefox installations don't self-check for new versions. They're handled along with the rest of all my software when I do my "yum update" or "dnf update" commands, and the newer releases of Firefox come from the Linux repos. I don't really think there's a need to use an upstream Firefox package, unless you're trying to solve an odd problem. I never do automatic updating. They have a habit of either firing off when you really want to be using your computer without interruptions. Or there's the possibility of them never firing off, because they wait for you to leave the computer idle before they'll run. And there's the surprise factor of something breaking on your computer, and you're not sure why. -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.76.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed Aug 10 16:21:17 UTC 2022 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list. _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
