Tim: >> I also look at /var/log/messages, other people use journalctl, but I >> find the messages file easier to deal with. Samuel Sieb: > You must have upgraded from a much older version or else you've made > some changes. Not an upgrade, a fresh install. And I don't recall making any changes related to the messages file creation. My post install logs just show things installing vlc, gstreamer and lame codecs, chromium and google- chrome browsers, evolution, gimp, gvim, musescore, autofs. On the other PC: uname -rsvp Linux 5.18.16-200.fc36.x86_64 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Wed Aug 3 15:44:49 UTC 2022 x86_64 It's the Mate spin, if that makes any difference. > By default there is no /var/log/messages file. The > journal is the default system and it is much easier to use. This is some new definition of easier that I'm unfamiliar with. I have to learn commands I don't know, as opposed to tail, less, and grep, that's on virtually all Linuxes. The same commands I use on every other log file I read (Apache logs, mail logs, etc). I have to keep referring to the man file to be able to use journalctl. And it's a right pig to deal with it loading a huge amount of data as opposed to reading the last messages file since it was rolled over. Yep, definitely not the "easier" in my dictionary. -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.76.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed Aug 10 16:21:17 UTC 2022 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list. _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
