On Mon, 2022-08-08 at 06:49 -0500, Roger Heflin wrote: > ping either the router on the ISP, or ping one of the DNS servers. I had thought about that, but also wondered if repeatedly pinging such things would bring up a firewall rule against me. Even a slow ping rate, but over a long length of time, might be considered abuse. Though, one thing I have against ping tests is that they *only* test a network's response to pings. > If you want to be truly accurate you might ping the ISP router. That > would detect connection to the ISP router works, but connection to > the DNS servers further in the network does not. I haven't used an ISP's DNS servers for decades, they were always crap. I run BIND, so I'm quite certain a DNS failure isn't part of my network notwork problem. Does anyone know what test Firefox uses to determine if you're offline or online? Beyond NetworkManager on our OS raising a flag, Firefox will sometimes decide for itself that you're online or off (and be quite wrong about it). I know the detection can be turned off, for those who use browsers on LANs and don't care about WWW, that detection gets in the way of configuring equipment. But I haven't found anything that explains how it does its trick. -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.71.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Jun 28 15:37:28 UTC 2022 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list. _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue