Tim: >> It's just one of those exercises in manifest stupidity and >> bureaucracy for the sake of it. Oooh, ooh, it's possible for us to >> make a rule about resetting passwords, so we will. Patrick O'Callaghan: > These "rules" were formulated in the Olden Days, when people had at > most one or two logins to mainframes, not dozens or more logins to > random websites. They are still enforced mainly by banks, to my > eternal frustration. Those same banks won't let me use my password > manager to create a genuinely random password and remember it for me. I'd rather have a password like: gibbonspaintingunicornsinmybathroom Than horrendous to type: jil;dfgyu89#$%U#89rdfjkgd Lots of fun trying to type crap in like that on a mobile phone! As if any cracker could guess my passphrase any easier than that code! How would it know how many words, just to start with? Of course you get banks that only let you set an 8-character password, all in the name of security. Then there's the ones that insist on a number, capital letters, and symbols: StickYour6PasswordRulesUpYours! -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.71.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Jun 28 15:37:28 UTC 2022 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list. _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure