Hi George N. White III: > It would be helpful to have a tutorial "How to manage multiple audio > devices" using slots. Yes! > The capabilities to get around the order in which devices are > discovered is there, but the user tools need a higher-level way to > present and manage the priority and switch between devices. I > suspect a really effective solution might require some changes at the > hardware level to support UUID's that would be the same when a (USB) > device is moved to a different system. If I switch on my USB audio device and then read the tail of dmesg, I see this: [508825.312474] usb 1-12: new high-speed USB device number 7 using xhci_hcd [508825.424455] usb 1-12: device descriptor read/64, error -71 [508825.637493] usb 1-12: device descriptor read/64, error -71 [508826.514480] usb 1-12: new high-speed USB device number 8 using xhci_hcd [508826.638210] usb 1-12: New USB device found, idVendor=1397, idProduct=0503, bcdDevice= 1.00 [508826.638221] usb 1-12: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=3, SerialNumber=2 [508826.638228] usb 1-12: Product: UMC1820 [508826.638235] usb 1-12: Manufacturer: BEHRINGER [508826.638240] usb 1-12: SerialNumber: 04BBF4FF If I switch it off, wait, switch it back on again, I see this: [568753.073218] usb 1-12: USB disconnect, device number 8 [568766.062266] usb 1-12: new high-speed USB device number 9 using xhci_hcd [568766.174287] usb 1-12: device descriptor read/64, error -71 [568766.387286] usb 1-12: device descriptor read/64, error -71 [568767.264274] usb 1-12: new high-speed USB device number 10 using xhci_hcd [568767.387993] usb 1-12: New USB device found, idVendor=1397, idProduct=0503, bcdDevice= 1.00 [568767.388004] usb 1-12: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=3, SerialNumber=2 [568767.388011] usb 1-12: Product: UMC1820 [568767.388017] usb 1-12: Manufacturer: BEHRINGER [568767.388023] usb 1-12: SerialNumber: 04BBF4FF One would presume there's enough in there to associate the device with a fixed ID. Even if it fakes the serial number, it's different from the other audio hardware in a consistent manner. Some don't provide much in the way of useful identifies, but they each use different drivers: HDMI audio through the monitor: [ 9.884206] snd_hda_intel 0000:00:1f.3: bound 0000:00:02.0 (ops i915_audio_component_bind_ops [i915]) [ 9.890273] snd_hda_intel 0000:00:1f.3: irq 127 for MSI/MSI-X On-board audio: [ 9.916659] snd_hda_codec_realtek hdaudioC0D0: autoconfig for ALC892: line_outs=1 (0x14/0x0/0x0/0x0/0x0) type:line [ 9.916663] snd_hda_codec_realtek hdaudioC0D0: speaker_outs=0 (0x0/0x0/0x0/0x0/0x0) [ 9.916664] snd_hda_codec_realtek hdaudioC0D0: hp_outs=1 (0x1b/0x0/0x0/0x0/0x0) [ 9.916665] snd_hda_codec_realtek hdaudioC0D0: mono: mono_out=0x0 [ 9.916666] snd_hda_codec_realtek hdaudioC0D0: inputs: [ 9.916668] snd_hda_codec_realtek hdaudioC0D0: Front Mic=0x19 [ 9.916669] snd_hda_codec_realtek hdaudioC0D0: Rear Mic=0x18 [ 9.916671] snd_hda_codec_realtek hdaudioC0D0: Line=0x1a More about the on-board audio: [ 9.936627] input: HDA Intel PCH Front Mic as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1f.3/sound/card0/input7 [ 9.937820] input: HDA Intel PCH Rear Mic as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1f.3/sound/card0/input8 [ 9.937879] input: HDA Intel PCH Line as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1f.3/sound/card0/input9 [ 9.937938] input: HDA Intel PCH Line Out as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1f.3/sound/card0/input10 [ 9.937979] input: HDA Intel PCH Front Headphone as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1f.3/sound/card0/input11 More about the HDMI audio: [ 9.938019] input: HDA Intel PCH HDMI/DP,pcm=3 as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1f.3/sound/card0/input12 [ 9.938060] input: HDA Intel PCH HDMI/DP,pcm=7 as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1f.3/sound/card0/input13 [ 9.938819] input: HDA Intel PCH HDMI/DP,pcm=8 as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1f.3/sound/card0/input14 [ 9.939107] input: HDA Intel PCH HDMI/DP,pcm=9 as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1f.3/sound/card0/input15 [ 9.939154] input: HDA Intel PCH HDMI/DP,pcm=10 as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1f.3/sound/card0/input16 Outboard USB audio device: [ 10.753506] usbcore: registered new interface driver snd-usb-audio [508825.312474] usb 1-12: new high-speed USB device number 7 using xhci_hcd [508825.424455] usb 1-12: device descriptor read/64, error -71 [508825.637493] usb 1-12: device descriptor read/64, error -71 [508826.514480] usb 1-12: new high-speed USB device number 8 using xhci_hcd [508826.638210] usb 1-12: New USB device found, idVendor=1397, idProduct=0503, bcdDevice= 1.00 [508826.638221] usb 1-12: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=3, SerialNumber=2 [508826.638228] usb 1-12: Product: UMC1820 [508826.638235] usb 1-12: Manufacturer: BEHRINGER [508826.638240] usb 1-12: SerialNumber: 04BBF4FF Switching the USB audio device off and on again is often enough to get the device noticed by my system and sound go over to it. 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