On Fri, 2022-04-29 at 10:21 -0500, Chris Adams wrote: > Raspberry Pi in particular is problematic and outside Fedora's > control, somewhat similar to nVidia GPUs. There are undocumented > things, closed source blobs, etc. that make it hard to reliably > support Pi. It's really unfortunate that the Pi dominates the small > board space. I'd not looked at Raspberry Pi, but a quick look now I see a post saying it's open-source, and another saying it's not. Well, that's as clear as mud. But as far as obsoleting general purpose PC hardware, that ways were already discovered to make use of it years ago, that isn't in the same position as close-source hardware that no-one knows how to use. And, sure, I get it that if NVidia hasn't updated their blob to run on the newer systems with different requirements, that's not *easy* to deal with. But people have decompiled things before. And does the old blob not run on a new OS simply for that reason? Or is it that someone has drawn a line in the sand and said too old, don't care. If it's a desktop PC it's feasible to switch the graphics hardware, not so with most laptops. Often it was never interchangeable, and even if it was, that was years ago on a proprietary bit of hardware. What I find is that as the years roll on, bloating has set in. As hardware has become more impressive, software has become less efficient because it can get away with it. Ignoring a 1 MHz Z80 toy computer I had, my first real personal computer was a 7MHz 32-bit computer with about 1 meg of RAM, and could cold-boot in 16 seconds off it's 40 MB IDE HDD. It was a remarkable efficient thing. Modern PCs have better hardware than ye olde mainframes costing the GDP of small countries, and running their government, or defense system, or banking systems. I should be able to do live 3D photorealistic ray tracing with modern PCs, by comparison. Yet, my 2GHz 64-bit quad-CPU with 16 gigs of RAM takes longer to boot-up, and requires ridiculous hardware specs to just get the desktop up. That's before actually running a program. Computers have always been a bit of an environmental disaster, and every now and then there's a large wave of dumping because of a fundamental shift somewhere in the commercial side of computing. There's one right now, with Windows refusing to run on what it considers obsolete hardware. Linux *used* to be one of the stop-gaps that made use of otherwise discarded hardware. -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.62.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Apr 5 16:57:59 UTC 2022 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list. _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
