> On 25 Mar 2022, at 18:58, R. G. Newbury <newbury@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > >> >> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2022 01:02:01 -0700 > Samuel Sieb<samuel@xxxxxxxx> wrote >> Subject: Re: pipewire and wireplumber >> R. G. Newbury wrote: >>> DJ Delorie<dj@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote >>>> Geoffrey Leach<geoffleach.gl@xxxxxxxxx> writes: >>>>> Is there a 'Getting Started With pipewire' and/or wireplumber >>>>> somewhere? Or should they 'just work' and I need to check my >>>>> connections? >>>> As a non-gnome (and non-display-manager) user, I share these .xsession >>>> snippets: >>>> >>>> # Required by pipewire, at least >>>> export XDG_RUNTIME_DIR=$(mktemp -d/tmp/$(id -u)-runtime-dir.XXX) >>>> >>>> # Required by most things >>>> eval `dbus-launch --sh-syntax --exit-with-session` >>>> >>>> pipewire & >>>> pipewire-pulse & >>>> (sleep 2 ; wireplumber & ) & >>>> >>>> >>>> There wasn't a pipewire-specific config; it uses the same ALSA backend >>>> as pulseaudio used. >>> If you don't mind answering, was it a Rhode Island Red cockerel or a hen >>> which you sacrificed to learn these arcane secrets? And, full-moon at >>> midnight, or dark of the moon? Or did this take moving up to a goat? >>> Or are you a graduate of Hogwarts? Because I am quite sure that none of >>> these snippets show up anywhere in the so-called documentation. Pure >>> magic, just like any sufficiently advanced technology. > >> That's because they aren't necessary. For any standard desktop all >> those pieces are already setup for you. Notice how he said >> "non-display-manager user". Those are only necessary if you don't have >> a graphical login session. > > Non-display-manager user or not, those might be necessary even if you have a graphical login session. I installed the KDE spin of Fedora 35 on Monday. A bare metal install: I partitioned the sda drive and formatted it during the install. > I had NO audio. As another data point. I just installed f35 KDE spin on a new pc and everything just worked. I have no audio issues. I did not do any special config it just worked. Barry > And nothing I did allowed the system to even *find* any audio hardware. I played a fugue's worth of combinations and read everything I could find. > Unfortunately, as noted in this thread, there is no install guide. It just works - NOT. I saw an error message about XDG_RUNTIME_DIR and spent most of an evening down that rabbit-hole, but nothing worked. Pipewire would not even find a module which its own rpm had installed. In the end, I basically inverted the lines of the install process script I was playing with, and re-installed pulseaudio. > > Audio works fine now. My opinion of pipewire is, that like pulseaudio and systemd were, it has been released far too early in its beta stages. It took a couple of years for each of pulseaudio and systemd to reach adequate levels of instalability and reliability. Likely the same for pipewire. > > Geoff > _______________________________________________ > users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure