On Mon, 2022-02-14 at 14:26 -0600, c. marlow wrote: > It's not Claws thats slow, its IMAP. Well, to be fair, it's not IMAP, but: Your network, their network, their mail server, how you use your mail client, and how their server and your client uses IMAP. It can be done efficiently, but some programmers don't even attempt it. On an inefficient system (overall) it's not going to be nice. Using POP3 *hides* that, by dragging all your mail in locally. As far as I'm concerned, after some 25+ years of doing email, if you want *local* storage, speed, and efficiency; and you don't want pain when keeping mail long term across installation of new releases and software; you need to run your own email server, drag your mail into it with some tool that periodically fetches your mail, and read your mail from your own server. And, in my opinion, mail servers are much better at handling local mail storage than mail clients are. Likewise for filtering. On my system: Fetchmail drags in my mail, from all my services, every 9 minutes. And this is easier to configure for all the different mail servers than doing so in a mail client (and doing it again after updates and new installs). It also drags in mails for other users at 11 minutes and 13 minutes, deliberately using different intervals. Dovecot (mail server) stores my mail locally. Dovecot uses mailsieve to filter *some* of my mail (I'm doing an experiment about what's most convenient). e.g. Fedora mailing list gets filtered into a Fedora mailing list folder, likewise for some other mailing lists. But low-volume things stay in my inbox. Evolution is my mail client, using IMAP to access my mail server. I don't have it set up to romp through all my folders when I start the program, I don't have it synchronising, I don't have it filtering my mail (it's always been painfully slow at that), I don't have it checking for new mail all the time. I do set the message lists to only display the last 5 days mail (older mail is there, but hidden out of the way until I need to hunt something down). When I go to read mail, I look in my inbox, it takes only a few seconds to see that I've some new email to me, maybe a couple of spams a week (so I manually delete them, and don't have to manually check on a spam folder for false positives). Some of that mail I want to keep for later I'll manually drag over to another folder. Some of it I want to keep I'll semi-automatically file into other folders - I select all mail listed in the inbox, or just the ones I've wanted to do something with, and manually run the filter on it that will move read messages from certain places. This way unread messages don't suddenly disappear on me. e.g. I see my bills waiting in my inbox until I deal with them, then *after* they're read they can get filed away for record keeping. Then I'll check on the already filtered mail. I'll pop over to the Fedora mailing list folder. It's showing the last 5 days of received mail, hiding the rest. The list of mail shows up in a snap. I'll look through the unread messages to see what interests me. If I'm idle and bored I'll read all the unread messages. Then I'll do the same for some other mailing lists. It's all organised and quick for me to do. As I step through any folders, I always see whatever's the lastest collection of mail. If I want to check for new mail while in the middle of a long reading session I can do that manually. It's less annoying that suddenly having your list of messages re-arranged on you while you're in the middle of reading them. -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.53.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Fri Jan 14 13:59:45 UTC 2022 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list. _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
