Re: Network bridge with network-scripts

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Tom Horsley writes:

On Tue, 25 Jan 2022 18:43:19 -0500
Sam Varshavchik wrote:

> 2) Stuff that crammed down everyone's throat, for various non-technical
> reasons and, otherwise, they have no technical merit of advantage that
> anyone can identify and point to.

At least NM had a reasonably valid reason - wireless was absolutely
hopeless on linux before NM. It just took NM about 10 years to reach
the point where it could do everything else network-scripts could
already do.

Agreed, and it's not just wifi but also VPN. I was able to come up with a turn-key script for automating a VPN setup for my VPN provider, and package it into an rpm. Plug: https://github.com/svarshavchik/fedora-nordvpn

I actually think NM falls only into the 1st category that I listed. It's hideously complicated, and just huge compared to network-scripts.

But that's not automatically a bad thing, and there are instances where simply the cost of complexity is worth it, and I think that NM, together with firewalld falls into that category.

What I think would really help with NM, and specifically nmcli, is to have nmcli upon request show each setting's description next to it. All of them are already documented in its man page. Just pull them out, verbatim.

So when I do "nmcli con show <uuid>" in addition to just the bare data dump, with cryptic names, I have a nice, brief, explanation of what each shown setting means. Every time I have to work with nmcli I end up burning a lot of time jumping back and forth between the man page and what nmcli shows me.

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