On Mon, 17 Jan 2022 17:20:17 -0500 Fulko Hew <fulko.hew@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > After a lot of experimentation, I did get the previous kernel to boot > all the way to the GUI. (I don't know why that didn't work the first > time I tried it.) So I'm back to a working system. > My hardware is fine. > And that older kernel (5.15-13-200.fc35) IS able to mount /boot/efi > It's just the newer kernel that can't. That's great! Wonderful feeling when the system recovers, isn't it? > What do I see now? > > 1/ I see that about 30 of those 60 packages that were supposed to be > originally > installed never were. Mostly wine stuff. I installed them > manually with dnf. > 2/ I think I'd like to uninstall those latest kernel packages. > (5.15.14-200.fc35) > kernel, kernel-core, kernel-devel, kernel-modules, > kernel-modules-extra and then re-install them. > I'm not confident yet on what that actual command line would be, > so I haven't done it yet. In boot, there should be a config file for that latest kernel. Run the command grep -i vfat config[latest kernel text] If there is no vfat, this will show it, but I think all fedora kernels are built with drivers for vfat built in. CONFIG_VFAT_FS=y > > 3/ I don't think I'll ever use 'discover' again. > It seems tedious, doesn't provide any status feedback on what it's > doing. And it always seems to want to reboot. > What was wrong with the old 'new rpm download/install' > procedure/utility? It is for people only familiar with gui interfaces who don't understand, or care to understand, what is going on under the hood. Mac or Windows users, or people who have no computer experience and just want a utility to go on the web, send some emails, maybe do a little spreadsheet or word processing. i.e. Fedora trying to appeal to a broader audience than its original technical base. The reboot is because, especially from the GUI instead of a virtual console, updates can create crashes when newer libraries are installed that are not backward compatible, or when new applications expect an api that isn't in an older library. The reboot ensures that everything is at the latest versions. I always update using dnf, without a gui running, from a virtual console, and have never had a problem. I start the GUI after the updates, so it picks up all the latest, greatest. I think it would be rare even if I was running dnf updates from the gui. But, again, for non technically savvy folks, this ensures they don't hit a crash or error, something very frightening to them, and which might give a bad impression that they then spread via social media comments. _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
