On Sun, 2022-01-09 at 12:46 -0400, George N. White III wrote: > Or partly human obsolescence: the staff who wrote the original drivers are > no longer around and it doesn't make sense to train new people on hardware > that isn't generating new revenue. There have been proposal to force vendors > to release specifications when hardware reaches "end-of-support".so that users > can maintain old systems. This also applies to things like farm tractors. I have to say that if I'm faced with okay hardware being let down by bad software, my inclination is not to buy replacement hardware from the same people. There's various vendors with track records of releasing buggy gear, ostensibly with the notion of get it out before the competition does, and they'll worry about patching it up later. But they never do iron the bugs out. Many years ago I remember reading about a court case regarding (I think it was a mainframe system), where the customer go so sick of failures and never ending patches, and yet still more bugs, that they sued (and won), arguing that they didn't believe being told that problems would be fixed with updates, that it was an outright lie. I've had various bits of hardware designed for Windows (back when I used to use it over 20 years ago), that was always crapping out on the OS it was designed for. There may have been one driver update released, maybe two, they didn't fix it. The expectation was that you'd just buy something new in a couple of years time. -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.49.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Nov 30 15:51:32 UTC 2021 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list. _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure