On Mon, 2021-09-27 at 18:22 -0400, Jonathan Billings wrote: > It sounds like a tablet/phone interface, but those don’t have a > traditional “desktop”. > > There are some serious flaws with that setup. What happens if a > user’s home is full/out of space? What if it is a network drive? > What if you have 10,000 users? What if each of them have network > drives? What if they have encrypted drives that aren’t accessible to > root? What if they don’t have a Desktop directory and their home > directory has the maximum directory size? I could keep going. How does the user find the three apps they need amongst a hundred other that they don't use, nor have no clue what they are (often the names mean nothing related to purpose), and aren't even in the same position in the stack from week to week? My phone wanted to be like that, but I only have the apps I keep on using every day on the home screen. The rest would have been shoveled into several extra screens of unsorted nonsense (in installation order), or alphabetically sorted nonsense (if I let it re-arrange them). Instead, I categorise them into folders of apps for related functions. Next on the list of mobile phone high irritations is being completely unable to install some pre-installed apps they insist must be on your device. The manufacturer's ones rarely get debugged. If enough complaints roll in about bugs, they often just delete the app instead of fix it. > In general you never want packages to touch a user’s home. It should > be up to the program to set up any user configuration, and if that > includes adding a launcher *after the user has launched it* then so > be it. > > There already exists a mechanism for all DEs to get a list of > applications available to the user, through the directory of .desktop > files. It’s up to the DE to define how to show it. I agree completely. On Mate, it's like the very old Gnome, clear desktop beyond just three icons: computer, home, and trash. There's categorised menus, and if you want to make a desktop or taskbar launcher for any of them, you can just drag and drop them out of the menu to where you want. Very simple. Stuff piled on the desktop is under the windows of apps that you're using. Not very useful for multitasking. -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.42.2.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Sep 7 14:49:57 UTC 2021 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list. _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure