On Tue, 2021-06-22 at 13:29 -0300, George N. White III wrote: > Many of the younger linux users I encounter came to linux from > Windows because a mission critical application requires linux. Some > have only used the command line after Google told them to run "sudo > <some_application_giving_access_denied>" resulting in a badly broken > system with some user files owned by root or data saved in root's > home directory. The crabby me wonders whether such people ever grasp using a computer without breaking it? Long ago I gave up helping such users by no- longer continually fixing their broken Windows, those people never got it. I liken it to be asked to unblock their sewers with bare hands. For me, giving semi-clueless users a copy and paste command line solution has had far more predictable results than trying to talk them through the steps to use any graphical system. It's painful trying to tell them to do some step, wait while they describe something that else that they've done instead of what you told them to do, try to figure out what they've really done, and try again... Stop clicking on random things trying to see if that'll magically make things work and actually just do *only* what I say... See that thing called mouse prefs, click on it. I can't see it, what if I do this (unrelated thing), instead? No, stop clicking on things, just read through all the options, not out loud to me, I don't want to know everything on the computer, I want you to find the mouse preferences icon in the window. I can't find it.... Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo (channelling Luke Skywalker). It shouldn't take 45 minutes of talking over the phone just to open the damn mouse preferences. Never mind actually change any settings. Have you still got the box? Yes. Unplug the computer and put it back in it. These are the same kind of people that'd dump all the books in the library in a random pile on the floor because they can't understand how to use a shelving system. Gawd help us if the clueless would like to practice first aid, despite all evidence to the contrary that they're not competent to do so. -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.31.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Thu Jun 10 13:32:12 UTC 2021 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list. _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
