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On 06/01/2021 13:03, Chris Adams wrote:
Once upon a time, Ed Greshko <ed.greshko@xxxxxxxxxxx> said:
On 06/01/2021 08:03, Chris Adams wrote:
Off to file a bug, against crypto-policies I guess to start.
Well, I don't know why you'd do that.

I just did "sudo update-crypto-policies --set LEGACY" on an F33 system, restarted the system as
suggested, and I was able to access that site just fine.
Because that's not supposed to be necessary.  The site's crypto appears
to be okay (as far as I can tell), and so weakening all crypto on my
system to access it is not a legitimate solution.  And the whole point
of having system crypto policies is that they are supposed to be
consistently applied, yet they are not (it's pretty evenly split that
some clients work and some do not).  There is something broken - that's
why I filed a bug.

What is the BZ# ?

FWIW....

On an F33 system with

[egreshko@meimei ~]$ update-crypto-policies --show
DEFAULT

I get....

[egreshko@meimei ~]$ openssl s_client -connect support.juniper.net:443
CONNECTED(00000003)
140633250584384:error:14094410:SSL routines:ssl3_read_bytes:sslv3 alert handshake failure:ssl/record/rec_layer_s3.c:1543:SSL alert number 40
---
no peer certificate available
---
No client certificate CA names sent
---
SSL handshake has read 7 bytes and written 313 bytes
Verification: OK
---
New, (NONE), Cipher is (NONE)
Secure Renegotiation IS NOT supported
Compression: NONE
Expansion: NONE
No ALPN negotiated
Early data was not sent
Verify return code: 0 (ok)
---

And with

[egreshko@f33kr ~]$ update-crypto-policies --show
LEGACY

I get....

[egreshko@f33kr ~]$ openssl s_client -connect support.juniper.net:443
CONNECTED(00000003)
depth=2 C = US, ST = New Jersey, L = Jersey City, O = The USERTRUST Network, CN = USERTrust RSA Certification Authority
verify return:1
depth=1 C = GB, ST = Greater Manchester, L = Salford, O = Sectigo Limited, CN = Sectigo RSA Organization Validation Secure Server CA
verify return:1
depth=0 C = US, postalCode = 94089, ST = California, L = Sunnyvale, street = 1133 Innovation Way, O = "Juniper Networks, Inc.", OU = Marketing, CN = support.juniper.net
verify return:1
---
Certificate chain
 0 s:C = US, postalCode = 94089, ST = California, L = Sunnyvale, street = 1133 Innovation Way, O = "Juniper Networks, Inc.", OU = Marketing, CN = support.juniper.net
   i:C = GB, ST = Greater Manchester, L = Salford, O = Sectigo Limited, CN = Sectigo RSA Organization Validation Secure Server CA
 1 s:C = GB, ST = Greater Manchester, L = Salford, O = Sectigo Limited, CN = Sectigo RSA Organization Validation Secure Server CA
   i:C = US, ST = New Jersey, L = Jersey City, O = The USERTRUST Network, CN = USERTrust RSA Certification Authority
 2 s:C = US, ST = New Jersey, L = Jersey City, O = The USERTRUST Network, CN = USERTrust RSA Certification Authority
   i:C = GB, ST = Greater Manchester, L = Salford, O = Comodo CA Limited, CN = AAA Certificate Services
 3 s:C = GB, ST = Greater Manchester, L = Salford, O = Comodo CA Limited, CN = AAA Certificate Services
   i:C = GB, ST = Greater Manchester, L = Salford, O = Comodo CA Limited, CN = AAA Certificate Services
---
Server certificate
-----BEGIN CERTIFICATE-----
MIIHTTCCBjWgAwIBAgIQMm0RmW62JyCrdujZ8PK4kzANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQsFADCB
lTELMAkGA1UEBhMCR0IxGzAZBgNVBAgTEkdyZWF0ZXIgTWFuY2hlc3RlcjEQMA4G
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MIIBfgYKKwYBBAHWeQIEAgSCAW4EggFqAWgAdQBGpVXrdfqRIDC1oolp9PN9ESxB
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lw==
-----END CERTIFICATE-----
subject=C = US, postalCode = 94089, ST = California, L = Sunnyvale, street = 1133 Innovation Way, O = "Juniper Networks, Inc.", OU = Marketing, CN = support.juniper.net

issuer=C = GB, ST = Greater Manchester, L = Salford, O = Sectigo Limited, CN = Sectigo RSA Organization Validation Secure Server CA

---
No client certificate CA names sent
Peer signing digest: SHA256
Peer signature type: RSA
Server Temp Key: ECDH, P-256, 256 bits
---
SSL handshake has read 6642 bytes and written 485 bytes
Verification: OK
---
New, TLSv1.2, Cipher is ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384
Server public key is 2048 bit
Secure Renegotiation IS supported
Compression: NONE
Expansion: NONE
No ALPN negotiated
SSL-Session:
    Protocol  : TLSv1.2
    Cipher    : ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384
    Session-ID: D750348B57732D201F5EB1EE1EDB3D0DAA10AE5C2E6844D54B587DFC750F906F
    Session-ID-ctx:
    Master-Key: 4CD9E8EAC021E23F6A425A8788C07FCDC0B4A2D90747C1A9784315E5F4A256ACBC5E670ACB80C9E75259C931CAAEE1C1
    PSK identity: None
    PSK identity hint: None
    SRP username: None
    TLS session ticket lifetime hint: 14400 (seconds)
    TLS session ticket:
    0000 - 14 3d 8f 47 81 9e a2 d8-e4 2f c5 83 4a 8e 85 86 .=.G...../..J...
    0010 - 4c ee b4 f8 3d 70 e9 8b-bd 4c 95 51 97 b2 00 e4 L...=p...L.Q....
    0020 - 44 0c 98 1f 57 2d 9c 73-f7 cb 84 0e 41 56 35 4c D...W-.s....AV5L
    0030 - 28 1b c4 cf ff 7a d4 2b-5e cf 0d 56 9e fc 0a 8b (....z.+^..V....
    0040 - bf 5f e0 0d 41 12 33 2d-5b 4c 52 60 cf 31 0f 51 ._..A.3-[LR`.1.Q
    0050 - 34 03 1a dd 82 98 83 5b-a0 e4 45 ae c1 eb c1 86 4......[..E.....
    0060 - d3 66 9e 25 70 92 24 c1-ab 00 bd f4 4e 33 41 18 .f.%p.$.....N3A.
    0070 - 6a cf e3 19 f9 b8 af 69-c5 b6 06 39 0e 2b b4 a2 j......i...9.+..
    0080 - d4 76 d9 27 c7 48 8f 9c-68 b1 34 43 87 e6 6b c9 .v.'.H..h.4C..k.
    0090 - 2f aa df 79 67 ff 01 3d-06 ef 97 db 0f 0f cc 0d /..yg..=........
    00a0 - b5 06 be af 0a de 05 5a-2c 27 25 2c 01 35 1b af .......Z,'%,.5..

    Start Time: 1609910106
    Timeout   : 7200 (sec)
    Verify return code: 0 (ok)
    Extended master secret: no

I don't know if there is a way to tell FF to use lesser security settings.

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