thermald missing and problems

[Fulko Hew <fulko.hew@xxxxxxxxx>]

I've changed the subject line to be more in line with the

current discussion...

On Fri, Dec 4, 2020 at 11:14 AM Fulko Hew <fulko.hew@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Wed, Dec 2, 2020 at 12:57 PM Chris Murphy <lists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

... snip ...

Quite a lot of thermal management is split up into different areas:
CPU itself, ACPI, logic board firmware, kernel, and user space.

I suggest making sure the logic board firmware is up to date as a first step.

sensors isn't a default package. New in Fedora 33, thermald is
installed and enabled by default.

I have run out of things to try, so I started to pursue the thermald issue.

You say it's part of F33:

- and yet it is not part of the KDE spin.

- so I installed both thermald and thermald_monitor

- installing thermald doesn't start the service, so I started it manually

- installing thermald didn't create its config file,  looking at it's man page

  I looked for possible config files... there are none.

- The man page talk about a config file generator tool called dptfxtract

  Also not part of those packages! and so not installed.

  Following the man page leads me to a reference to github, where it tells

  you, you also need acpidump. (I found that in package acpica-tools, downloaded it

  and ran it as per those instructions, but I'm still stopped by the missing dptfxtract.)

So, I can't see how thermald is part of F33.

Following up on my own email...

I downloaded the F33 Workstation spin, and ran it 'live'.

Thermald is part of it (unlike it being missing on the KDE spin).

Looking at: 'service thermald status' I see:

Dec 04 17:11:00 fedora systemd[1]: Starting Thermal Daemon Service...
Dec 04 17:11:02 fedora systemd[1]: Started Thermal Daemon Service.
Dec 04 17:11:02 fedora thermald[1212]: Found unsupported APAT version 1
Dec 04 17:11:02 fedora systemd[1]: thermald.service: Main process exited, code=dumped, status=5/TRAP
Dec 04 17:11:02 fedora systemd[1]: thermald.service: Failed with result 'core-dump'.

I tried Googling for that error, but turned up empty.

I did manage to run it using following (after adding 'liveuser' to the 'power' group):

sudo thermald --no-daemon --dbus-enable --loglevel=debug

And I also ran ThermalMonitor.

It only showed CPU temp, nothing else seemed to be reportable.

I then gave the CPU a  big load, so it would heat up.

Yes, it heated up, but never turned the fan on, nor did the daemons log

indicate that it wanted to turn it on (or at least nothing I could recognize).

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