On 2 Dec 2020 at 0:55, Samuel Sieb wrote:
Subject: Re: Differences between versions of wine on FC31 and
FC32? 5.19/5.22
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From: Samuel Sieb <samuel@xxxxxxxx>
Date sent: Wed, 2 Dec 2020 00:55:10 -0800
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> On 12/2/20 12:43 AM, José Abílio Matos wrote:
> > On Wednesday, December 2, 2020 5:39:38 AM WET Samuel Sieb wrote:
> >
> > > Notebook hard drives are really slow now, but I've never seen one take
> >
> > > that long.
> >
> > I saw. :-)
> >
> > [Oh, wait let me change that emoji to :-( ;-)]
> >
> > > This is why I put SSDs in everything.
> >
> > And as you correctly point this is the main issue. A SSD in an old
> > computer will make the computer fly because in some cases the
> > performance bottleneck is the I/O component, and that clearly is the
> > case when installing/updating thousand of packages.
>
> At one point I was upgrading a whole bunch of laptops to the next Fedora
> release and this was before I put SSDs in them. There was one laptop
> that was at least 5 years older than the rest and it took half the time
> to do the upgrade than the new ones.
This notebook is an Aspire E1-731-4699. The original hard drive was a
500G, but upgraded it to the 1Tb drive years ago. Everything else seems
to run just fine. Do have a very old IBM thinkpad R60, and it did
upgrade a lot faster than this one, but it has a few less packages installed.
Question: Doesn't the dnf process use the cache feature of the disk??
Know that the higher number is actually the speed of accessing the ram
buffer of the disk. But the lower number is the physical speed of the
disk. Just know that I started process at about after 11pm, and the
download only took about 25 minutes for the 5.4G of files it reported.
It was just the update.
The first few enties:
[ 1713.583866] dnf[683]: Running scriptlet: libgcc-10.2.1-6.fc32.x86_64 1/1
[ 1714.786807] dnf[683]: Upgrading : libgcc-10.2.1-6.fc32.x86_64
1/10017
[ 1720.550349] dnf[683]: Running scriptlet: libgcc-10.2.1-6.fc32.x86_64 1/10017
[ 1721.024442] dnf[683]: Upgrading : javapackages-filesystem-5.3.0-9.fc32.noarch
2/10017
[ 1722.464974] dnf[683]: Upgrading : fonts-filesystem-2.0.3-1.fc32.noarch 3/10017
[ 1722.991203] dnf[683]: Upgrading : kf5-filesystem-5.75.0-1.fc32.x86_64 4/10017
[ 1725.740344] dnf[683]: Upgrading : linux-firmware-whence-20201022-113.fc32.noar
5/10017
[ 1726.414571] dnf[683]: Upgrading : fedora-logos-30.0.2-4.fc32.x86_64 6/10017
the last few and then clean up starts
[29154.072094] dnf[683]: Upgrading : gstreamer1-plugins-base-1.16.2-3.fc32.i686
5002/10017
[29173.893098] dnf[683]: Upgrading : libFAudio-20.10-1.fc32.i686 5003/10017
[29196.157601] dnf[683]: Upgrading : wine-core-5.22-1.fc32.i686 5004/10017
[29217.288364] dnf[683]: Upgrading : wine-5.22-1.fc32.x86_64
5005/10017
[29234.820825] dnf[683]: Upgrading : wine-devel-5.22-1.fc32.i686 5006/10017
[29242.109709] dnf[683]: Upgrading : nss-3.58.0-3.fc32.i686
5007/10017
[29244.808671] dnf[683]: Running scriptlet: nss-3.58.0-3.fc32.i686 5007/10017
[29246.645428] dnf[683]: Upgrading : brotli-1.0.9-3.fc32.i686
5008/10017
[29252.598328] dnf[683]: Cleanup : python3-samba-2:4.11.14-0.fc31.x86_64
5009/10017
[29253.238475] dnf[683]: Running scriptlet: firefox-82.0.2-1.fc31.x86_64 5010/10017
[29253.238634] dnf[683]: Cleanup : firefox-82.0.2-1.fc31.x86_64 5010/10017
[29258.067048] dnf[683]: Running scriptlet: firefox-82.0.2-1.fc31.x86_64 5010/10017
[29258.225288] dnf[683]: Running scriptlet: samba-client-2:4.11.14-0.fc31.x86_64
5011/10017
[29258.252223] dnf[683]: Cleanup : samba-client-2:4.11.14-0.fc31.x86_64
5011/10017
[29267.404067] dnf[683]: Running scriptlet: samba-client-2:4.11.14-0.fc31.x86_64
5011/10017
[29274.681484] dnf[683]: Running scriptlet: samba-2:4.11.14-0.fc31.x86_64
5012/10017
[29274.682893] dnf[683]: Cleanup : samba-2:4.11.14-0.fc31.x86_64 5012/10017
The lines from the boot.log about the upgrade are 31624 in total
[47054.579629] dnf[683]: Complete!
[47054.580819] dnf[683]: Cleaning up downloaded data...
Well thanks for the time.
My first computer was a Heathkit H-120 with dual cpus. 8080 and an
8mzh 8088. Would only use one or other, not both at same time. Had
768K RAM and 192k video board. Much nicer than IBM PC. 20M hard
disk was an option, but was an extra $2000 on top of the $2349 for the
kit. So, ran it on dual 360K floppys. At the time, the college mini system
was an IBM System 34 with 96K of ram and 63.9M hard disk. Better
than the IBM 1130 I have in high school that had 8K of Ram and 5M
hard disk, and used punched cards..
Perhaps an SSD drive would change things.
Be Safe.
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