Everyone: The reform of dnfdragora to put all available updates into groups is not updating everything, and not updating many things it used to update without fail. The only reliable thing my system will update, are applications and various desktop relevant things. And not all applications, either. Basically, if it is not in a group, dnfdragora will not update it and I have to fall back on the traditional Software Management application to do these updates. The following packages typically fail of update and even of selection on dnfdragora: * The kernel and related packages. * Browsers other than Firefox. * Application packages from repositories foreign to the Fedora community, such as "bunkus.org" (mkvtoolsnix), google (for chrome), and Adobe Systems Incorporated. * System packages that run background processes that normally load themselves at startup and stay resident. I've checked for all possible settings I can make to solve this problem. No joy. I've tried refreshing metadata (which, by the way, takes fifteen minutes every time). No joy. I tried selecting "not showing the groups." No joy. Suggestions? Have any of you noticed the same issue? My desktop is KDE. "Check for updates" counts all packages that need an update. But again: if they're not in a group, they're not available for a selection. (Note: if you're going to tell me to report this as a bug, I need to know exactly where and how. I've filed bugs in the wrong place and they get no action.) Temlakos _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx