Then if no one you know uses LaTeX anymore, how does one render mathematical equations other than by drawing the image of math and embedding such images directly? Temlakos On 8/12/20 10:50 AM, William Oliver wrote: > Wow. I didn't know people still used TeX/LaTeX a lot any more. I > remember having to use it all the time for stuff I wrote when in > graduate school in the 1980s, but I thought it had pretty much fallen > out of favor except for die-hard users. I haven't used it in years. > But what do I know. I still remember (and pine for) the keystroke > commands for WordStar. > > From reading this discussion, it seems that the primary complaints > against LibreOffice are larger scale layout issues. I may have missed > it, and if someone has mentioned it earlier, I apologize. What about > just importing into a publishing/layout program like Scribus? It seems > that this would make it trivial to do various orientations, etc. Of > course, just as word processing programs are not the best desktop > publshing systems, the desktop publishing apps tend to make poor word > processors... > > Another possibility might be to import the odt file into Libreoffice > Draw and use that for layout changes. > > billo > > > > On Wed, 2020-08-12 at 08:44 -0300, George N. White III wrote: >> On Wed, 12 Aug 2020 at 02:12, Tim via users < >> users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> wrote: >> >>> On Tue, 2020-08-11 at 15:39 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: >>>> So I put him on LO. He is writing up a book or something. >>> A word processor, any word processor, is not a particularly good >>> choice >>> for writing a book. They've long since gone from being a "word >>> processor" to being a secretary's all-purpose convoluted typing >>> tool. >>> >>> They're not particularly conducive to writing paragraphs and pages >>> as >>> just paragraphs and pages, often horrible at very long documents, >>> and >>> not really good for doing page layout. Probably not a very useful >>> format if you were going to take a book to a printing house, >>> either. >>> >> Many print shops want standards compliant PDF's, some will accept >> Word. My wife once needed a fanfold handout, so I created a PDF >> using LaTeX. The printer remarked that it had been years since he >> had seen formatting of comparable quality. Now Word has a >> TeX engine. >> >> >>> Latex is the usual suggestion for real authors, but will be even >>> more >>> of a bastard to use if you're not into that kind of thing. >>> >> LaTeX doesn't have to be difficult if you are working with an >> academic >> publisher that supports it. Many of the people who found it >> difficult >> were following bad advice that is all too easy to find on the >> internet. >> >> LaTeX is designed to allow authors to focus on the logical structure >> of a document. Details of formatting are handled by a "document >> class", and scientific publishers usually provide a document class >> that conforms to the style of a particular book series. Authors >> need to learn some LaTeX markup commands, usually by >> imitating a sample document from the publisher or a colleague's >> previous published LaTeX file. At my former work dozens of >> students and postdocs who had been using Word were able to >> switch to LaTeX with minimal effort. There are sometimes >> glitches that need help from an experienced user. In academia >> such help is readily available, but there are also many online >> sources of help. Unfortunately, the internet also has many >> sites offering really bad advice for LaTeX users. >> >> Many non-science publishers contract out the final tweaking/editing >> and rarely contractors who use anything other than Word. >> >> It is worth noting that LaTeX originated on systems with ASCII >> character sets. There has been a big effort to support Unicode >> fonts, including work by a consortium of academic publishers and >> societies to develop high quality free Unicode fonts (STIX2) with >> comprehensive coverage of scientific symbols. Microsoft developed >> Cambria Math. These efforts also led to a new "TeX engine", LuaTeX, >> so those who need Unicode support are well advised to use LuaLaTeX. >> For linux, LuaLaTeX is provided by TeX Live, which is packaged by >> linux distros and also available from the TeX User Group (tug.org). >> >> _______________________________________________ >> users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Fedora Code of Conduct: >> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ >> List Guidelines: >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines >> List Archives: >> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > _______________________________________________ > users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
