Re: Question on difference between dnf upgrade versus clean install?

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You might run a smartctl --all /dev/<disk> and see if the disk is
reporting issues with sectors.

A few slow but still readable sectors would push up the time.

On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 1:25 AM Michael D. Setzer II via users
<users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > On 2020-05-29 01:58, Michael D. Setzer II via users wrote:
> >> I've got 5 Fedora machines at my house. Recently
> >> upgraded a couple since FC30 was becoming EOL.
> >>
> >> Some I did a clean install. New Hard disk, and install
> >> from iso. Usually, that takes about 1/2 hour for whole
> >> process. Including install of OS, and then install of a
> >> number of other packages I use that are not installed by
> >> default.
> >>
> >> Did update on my notebook machine as well using dnf
> >> system update. This system has some more packages
> >> installed. Showed 5070 versus about 2000+ for the
> >> clean install. Download process took about 30 minutes,
> >> but then the reboot and upgrade process took just over
> >> 14 hours. Total was 14 hours 50 minutes.
> >>
> >> Not clear why it would take 15 times as long? Checked
> >> while running, and dnf was running at 100%, but just
> >> using 1 cpu. Notebook has dual cpus. Don't know if
> >> others just run it, and check when done, but seems to
> >> be a bigger difference in time than it should be.
> >
> > I do not know why your upgrade would have taken so long.  I just upgraded
> > an
> > F30 VM to F32.  It is a pretty vanilla Workstation install.  The VM's
> > disks are actually
> > hosted on a NAS over nfs and are traditional spinning HW.
> >
> > I upgraded via "dnf system-upgrade".  The number of packages upgraded was
> > 1656.
> > The download phase took 9 minutes 10 seconds.  The upgrade phase took a
> > few ticks
> > over 25 minutes.
> >
> > I would think that checking
> >
> > dnf system-upgrade log
> >
> > and seeing if one area in particular was responsible for the excessive
> > time may be
> > helpful.
> >
> > Another recent upgrade of an old notebook from F31->F32, Core2 Duo CPU,
> > with 2626
> > packages upgraded took 58 minutes.  That notebook does have an SSD.
> >
> > --
> > The key to getting good answers is to ask good questions.
>
> Pulled the data from the boot.log
> 31814 lines
> Total Time 14:59.59.05
> Longest single change was 1156.203674 seconds
> [ 1740.207952] dnf[807]:   Running scriptlet:
> filesystem-3.12-2.fc31.x86_64                          1/1
> Average of transactions 1.6918392547953
> Only 11 transactions took 60 seconds or longer
>
> Had to clean out lines that where mixed in with the upgrade of starting
> and stopping things during process.
> Extracted the time data, and then compared the times of each process to
> calculate the difference.
>
> CPU is Intel(R) Pentium(R) CPU 2020M @ 2.40GHz with just 2 cores.
> Has 12G of Ram.
>
> If you want, I could send you the libreoffice calc file. Perhaps you would
> see something that I've missed.
>
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