Re: Question on difference between dnf upgrade versus clean install?

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Both spinning disks?  No SSD's involved?
On the upgrade it will have to read the packages from disk and then
write them back to the same disk at a different location as files,
this will cause a lot of extra seeking (maybe 2x slower here)

The laptop drive may be a lower RPM than the other machine disk (if
7200rpm) that would result in 1.5x at least.

You have 2.5x the packages, 2.5x if none of those packages are the
larger packages, which the stuff you installed afterward may be.
Given you have 2.5x the package there may be a lot of stuff you aren't
using.

On the upgrade you also have to delete the current packages after you
install the newer one, another 2x there.

So that is 2.5x2x2 ignoring the hard disk speed, that is about 10x
slower for the upgrade.

>From my experience most of the time is disk io and seeks, very little
of it is actaully cpu.    My machines will do an upgrade in about 60
minutes, and that is with all of them having SSD's, so I would expect
it to be much longer with a spinning disk, 14x does not sound that
unreasonable if you have a lot of packages, and a slow laptop HD.

On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 12:59 PM Michael D. Setzer II via users
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>
> I've got 5 Fedora machines at my house. Recently
> upgraded a couple since FC30 was becoming EOL.
>
> Some I did a clean install. New Hard disk, and install
> from iso. Usually, that takes about 1/2 hour for whole
> process. Including install of OS, and then install of a
> number of other packages I use that are not installed by
> default.
>
> Did update on my notebook machine as well using dnf
> system update. This system has some more packages
> installed. Showed 5070 versus about 2000+ for the
> clean install. Download process took about 30 minutes,
> but then the reboot and upgrade process took just over
> 14 hours. Total was 14 hours 50 minutes.
>
> Not clear why it would take 15 times as long? Checked
> while running, and dnf was running at 100%, but just
> using 1 cpu. Notebook has dual cpus. Don't know if
> others just run it, and check when done, but seems to
> be a bigger difference in time than it should be.
>
> Thanks and be Safe..
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