Re: Thunderbird quirk

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On 2020-05-16 18:57, George N. White III wrote:
> On Fri, 15 May 2020 at 15:52, Joe Zeff <joe@xxxxxxx <mailto:joe@xxxxxxx>> wrote:
>
>     On 05/15/2020 12:39 PM, Robert McBroom via users wrote:
>     > Sometime in early April the mailserver on yahoo.com <http://yahoo.com> started sending much
>     > of the list entries to spam.  I noticed because all that was coming
>     > through on thunderbird were replies. Anyone had similar experience?
>
>     I also use Thunderbird, and once in a while, I find a message from the
>     list in the Junk folder.  I've also seen messages from the list with a
>     warning that T'bird thinks it's a scam.  And, I get newsletters about VA
>     benefits that are almost always marked as scams and the program doesn't
>     let you whitelist an address.
>
>
> Thunderbird was classifying some messages from family members as junk,
> but you have to configure it to automatically move messages flagged as junk 
> from the inbox to a junk folder.  My ISP moves messages to a junk folder
> before they reach the inbox.  Only a few get classed as junk by the 
> Thunderbird filter.

My domain is also hosted by google.  I use filters on their side to sort incoming mail.  Less work
for T-Bird.  And since the messages are presorted, I don't think the T-Bird Junk filtering is run on
folders.

I did a test over the past few days and had google put "spam" in a different folder than T-Bird.
Only spam detected by google was present.  The T-Bird controlled junk folder remained empty.

>
> Thunderbird junk detection does not have a great user interface.  It requires 
> you to train junk detection, see https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/thunderbird-and-junk-spam-messages:
>
>
>     Secondly, you must *constantly* train the filter by marking a quantity
>      of GOOD messages as not junk - messages in your Inbox AND 
>     messages that have been filtered into other folders. You must use 
>     the keyboard upper case J, because there is no button - the 
>     "Not Junk" button appears only for messages that have already 
>     been classified as junk. Marking several messages per week will 
>     be sufficient. You can select many messages and mark them all 
>     at the same time. Note - unfortunately nothing in the user interface 
>     indicates whether a message has already been marked as "not junk". 
>
>
>

FWIW, I think the last time I trained T-Bird was over 2 years ago.

And, yes, google isn't perfect and I do get the occasional false positive for spam.


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