On Thu, 14 May 2020 at 13:45, John Mellor <john.mellor@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > All package updates are scheduled for offline installation. There's no > > safe way to update packages at runtime, and I've written a lot about > > this in the past. > That is untrue. I have observed a few packages installing without a > required reboot. Ohh of course! Because you've seen no issues on a limited number of packages that must mean there are never issues. ***I*** used to be person triaging upgrade bugs before we switched to offline updates. If the update works correctly 99.9999% x millions of users, that's a deluge of bugs from users with broken root filesystems and crashed apps. Since switching to offline updates the number of broken systems has gone down two, maybe three, orders of magnitude. > Flatpak and snap packages have serious downsides, in that they take > longer to start and do not share RAM for common libs. Citation needed. >Fixing the runtime code and data dependency issue is the correct way to fix it. It's impossible. Desktop applications do not expect files to just disappear when running. Richard. _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
