Thought I had everything working. I had created a 2nd bridge for use with virtual machines I want to keep off my local lan (one of the VMs operating as a firewall with two ethernets). Then I rebooted after installing updates, and I couldn't talk to anything in the outside world. Aaugh! Finally discovered I had two default routes, one (the one it picked for everything, of course) going through the 2nd bridge to nowhere. Eventually found magic incantation: nmcli con modify bifrost ipv4.never-default true (bifrost being my 2nd bridge). I may eventually get used to network manager, or I may die of old age. _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx