On 2020-04-23 21:03, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > On 2020-04-23 05:25, Ed Greshko wrote: >> On 2020-04-23 20:06, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: >>> >>> Also, when this happens, backups (dump, tar) take about >>> eight times long to complete. >>> >>> And to just be clear, if no slow down is apparent, shutdown >>> and reboot work perfectly: they do not hang >> >> So, you're saying that if you see a slowdown then you'll have the issue with reboot/shutdown. > > Yes. And time does not heal. Only the magic one fingered reset (POR -- Power On Reset) works. > >> That would suggest to me that determining the cause of the slowdown is most important. > > I would concur > >> When the slowdown happens, can you switch to another VT (ctrl-alt-F2) or ssh in from elsewhere >> and see if there is any unusual CPU or I/O activity? > > You have to be quick. As soon as "shutdown reached", everything freezes except the revolving CPU registry > prints outs I'm not saying you need to check during shutdown. I'm saying do not shutdown. Determine the cause of the slowdown. Roger gave a strategy for that. > >> >> It sounds as if this issue happens for you frequently? And, are you still on the kernel shown in the >> BZ? > > What is BZ? Bugzilla. > >> There have been updates to the kernel since that time. > > Every day. I keep hoping a kernel update will come through > and fix it You're on 5.5.17-200 now? -- The key to getting good answers is to ask good questions. _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx