Re: tip: upgrade to 32

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On 2020-04-19 08:22, George N. White III wrote:
On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 at 01:26, ToddAndMargo via users <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

    On 2020-04-18 20:59, Samuel Sieb wrote:
     > On 4/18/20 7:18 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
     >> Because Brave is not part of Fedora, although it should
     >> be, especially with Firefox working on fewer and fewer
     >> websites.  Firefox is dying and that is really sad.  I have been
     >
     > I haven't noticed this, but if so, it's because Google nearly has a
     > monopoly now and they're doing the embrace and extend of the web.


With MS Edge Beta using Google's engine, public web sites have
good reason to abandon designs that depend on Explorer, but
many internal corporate sites still require Explorer.

Ya, no fooling.  U-Haul's web portal comes to mind.
It also blocks any transition to more reliable operating
systems like Fedora.  But that is of little consequence,
Fedora won't be adopted until it runs all teh other
software they need.  Quickbooks is the typical deal
killer for Fedora adoption.



    It has been driving me crazy.  The last site to bork
    was Intel's sales contact page.  Can't send the message
    after filling out their forms


Intel's sales and support web sites were horrible when I was
using their compilers.  Fortunately I could develop using GNU
compilers and then make a few changes (and the odd bug
report) to get performance benefits from Intel's compilers.
Those benefits are now largely irrelevant -- CPU improvements
mean the workloads have become I/O bound.

Ya.  I have worked in industry before where engineers were
treated like despised expenses.  And the sooner they could
get rid of us, the better.  The cleanest description I
have heard of it was that we are rags to be disposed of
when finished with us.  I love the part where they get
in your face and yell "JUST SHIP IT!!!"

By the way, pointy haired boss, the customer will forgive you
if you are late and it works versus on time and it does not
work.  They NEVER forgive/forget not works.

Large enterprises (such as my former employer) have all sorts of
legacy tools that only work on MS Explorer.  In my case a massive
redesign of the pay system should have been the start of a move
to modern, platform independent, designs.   The new pay system
was supposed to reduce the number of staff (needed to do manual
workarounds for limitations/bugs of the legacy system), but came
with a new set of limitations/bugs that needed even more staff and
many cases of incorrect pay.  I suspect this experience delayed
replacement of other problematic legacy systems.

People are going to continue being hurt, even killed (Boeing) by
mismanaged IT in large organizations.   When I consider investing
in a company I look at their web sites, participation of their IT
people in standards organizations and conferences, etc.

Well stated.

Do you remember when "Thin Clients" were suppose to replace us?
Cloud computer is a regurgitation of that.  Cloud computers
in just Client /server with a really bad connection between
the two.  Some things it works marvelously on and others
it is tragic.  It is a matter of knowing the difference.

Ah but those Dilbert style managers only think of how much
money they will save by getting rid of us.  Gee Wiz
pointy haired boss, you could reduce your overhead to zero
by firing ALL your employees!!

One of my computers uses a paid service to fill his store
with music for the customers.  Whenever they call me with
a problem, if I can't hear music playing in the background,
I know their Internet is down.  Chuckle.  Fortunately,
he is so aware of the Internet issues with his music, that
he takes my advice and will not migrate his point-of-sale
software to the cloud.

Other customer of mine do point-of-sale on the cloud.
They have to pay for TWO internet services to keep
from going down all the time.  They do not make the best
impression on their customers.


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