On Sat, 2020-04-18 at 21:24 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > The thing is that Firefox is not tolerant of mistakes > on web sites. They are purest and think the web site > should be fixed. All web browsers are tolerant of authoring faults, some browsers are way too tolerant (and in doing so, often introduce security flaws). It's all too common for web service coders to NEVER test their code, and just see if it appears to work in one or two browsers. No browser is a fault-tester. Plenty of coders do not know HTML, JavaScript, etc., and flagrantly violate how it's supposed to be used. It's sheer lunacy to expect that kind of site to work properly in any browser. You can only make so many guesses about how broken code was supposed to work. Not to mention that we still have the situation that some browsers offer extra special (off-spec) features that simply are not going to exist in other browsers, and we still have dumb coders who don't see what's wrong with trying to use such quirks. There's a bunch of web hosts who are real slack-arses who think that they can leave SSL certificates seriously out-of-date and expect their clients to just skip past a rejected certificate. On some browsers, they rightly refuse to bypass certain levels of unacceptable certificates. Again, we still get websites that are only designed to work with Microsoft products, perhaps with encouragement rather than just sheer laziness. When faced with a site like that, there's nothing that Firefox, or any other browser, coder can do about it. It's an unfortunate reality that we almost have to have more than one browser installed. And while you've found bias against Firefox, others will have found bias against other browsers. And it is well worth tracking down a contact address for a business service, or the turn-key web portal author, and sending them the "I was going to do business with you, but your website failed to work with my mainstream browser." And there's the converse, like this: https://webcompat.com/ Where it hopefully aids in finding shortcomings in browsers. Because sometimes it is the browser's fault. -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1062.18.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Mar 17 23:49:17 UTC 2020 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list. _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx