Re: unusual display problem

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On Sun, 2020-04-05 at 10:03 +1000, Stephen Morris wrote:
> Hi patrick, just one question, what mail package are you using? I'm 
> using Thunderbird Daily and as displayed to me his comments display 
> unquoted in exactly the same way as your comments are unquoted.

I could see he was using Evolution, it's in the headers:
User-Agent: Evolution 3.34.4 (3.34.4-1.fc31)  

I'm using Evolution 3.28.5 (3.28.5-5.el7)  

There are a number of things that fool mail clients into joining
replies in with the quotes.  One of the main ones is when just start
typing replies in the middle of quotes.  Another is when people start
replying immediately below a quote without adding a blank line between
them.

Thunderbird is particularly hideous at quoting, especially with plain
text.  You see this smattering of variable amounts of blank spaces
between the quote prefix indicators (either > or | symbols).  HTML mail
ought to be able to do quoting better, simply because there are tags
actually marking where a quote starts and ends, yet HTML mailers still
do a diabolical job at quoting.

Whenever I reply to an email, it's almost guaranteed that I will have
to hand-edit every line to turn a jumbled mess into something that's
easy to read.

For a very long time, about the only way to do neat quoting is to jam
all the quote symbols to the left, with no blank spaces before any of
them, and one blank space to the right of the last one.  Do anything
else, and it becomes an eyesore.  I wish mail programmers would get
their act together, they've had decades to learn what doesn't work.

Good example:

>>>> oldest quote of a prior message, with several lines of text
>>>> where each line is neatly wrapped AFTER the damn quote
>>>> indicators, not in the middle of them

>>> next oldest quote
>>> replying to the previous
>>> messages

>> then the next

> and the last

Shitty quoting example:

> >>  >      > old quote
>> > | > oldish quote
}| a reply, maybe the latest, but you can't tell
> >  > || oldish quote

I've seen very few mail (or news clients) that could do decent quoting
(or even typing of your own message), none on Linux.  There was Thor on
the Amiga, eventually YAM got better.  The Bat! and Forte Agent on
Windows.  PINE could do it quite well, but it was a text-only system
that was a nightmare to use in other ways.

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