On 2019-12-13 22:44, sean darcy wrote: > That's why there's no problem. I've removed rhgb from the kernel command line, so I start at the terminal. Then startx fails. ???? Removing rhgb (Red Hat Graphical Boot) simply allows the boot messages to be shown as opposed to hiding them. X is still started normally. When talking about starting X from the terminal I was under the impression you changed the default.target from point to /lib/systemd/system/graphical.target to pointing to /lib/systemd/system/multi-user.target This would result in booting to a text based login. From there on would login and manually start X by issuing startxfce4 for example FWIW, I just booted my F31Xfce VM with no "desktop" file and without rhgb on the kernel line and it booted just fine to the Graphical Login of lightdm. -- The key to getting good answers is to ask good questions. _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx