On 2019-12-09 12:08 a.m., Ed Greshko wrote:
On 2019-12-09 12:31, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote:
Ok.....so I'm just gonna ask, because I've noticed something. There was a time I could update my machine (Lenovo ThinkPad T-430 / T-420 laptops.) that wouldn't take long and I'd be able to continue to use my machines for hours until I was ready to either reboot, shutdown, etc. Is it me?...or has recently Fedora started to behave like Windows?....in the fact that now when I do updates?....I HAVE to reboot my machine!!!???? I thought the whole premise of moving away from having to reboot for each and every update, patch, and fix was one of the major reasons some people LEFT Windows to BEGIN WITH!? Is this going to be the "norm"?.....is it because Microsoft has integrated themselves within the Open Source community that now.....the community is starting to behave like WINDOWS!?.....because if so?...I may have to start looking for another distro. The days of me having to reboot just because the SYSTEM wants me to?......SHOULD have ended with the cessation of my usage of
Microsoft Windows.
I assume GNOME is your desktop, yes?
Why not just update from the command line? "dnf update". Then you can decide if you'd like to reboot.
Eddie, I agree fully. 99% of the updates do not require a reboot. The
only exception that I can think of is a breaking API change, and those
should not exist in a given release. Indeed, Ubuntu explicitly
guarantees that a breaking change will not happen until the next
release, and they use a backport repo section in order to stop breaking
changes from happening.
I have had a Firefox issue after update twice in the past, and I assume
that would be because Mozilla broke their API between versions, but
that's about it. However, most packages follow semantic versioning
rules, and a breaking API change always requires a major version number
shift. Its almost trivial for the updater to check for a major version
shift in a package that is running, and flag that a reboot is required
only in that situation. And even then, unless its the kernel, it should
require a user logout/login instead of a reboot.
The bogus Gnome requirement to reboot is IMHO based upon faulty
thinking, and needs to be corrected.
--
John Mellor, Build/Release Engineer
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