The most reproducible one is claws-mail which always takes 25 seconds to start, and the delay seems to be something to do with dbus messages. Here's some debug-monitor output that shows the delay: sig 1575815215.835943 4294967295 org.freedesktop.DBus <none> /org/freedesktop/DBus org.freedesktop.DBus NameOwnerChanged mc 1575815240.865401 1 :1.8953 org.freedesktop.DBus /org/freedesktop/DBus org.freedesktop.DBus Hello mr 1575815240.865440 4294967295 org.freedesktop.DBus :1.89531 Went from 15 to 40 sending that Hello. (Which seems to be just the way you setup a dbus connection, so it isn't very exotic). Anyone have any clue what might cause this? I tried loading a bunch of debuginfo files and debugging, but it is all gibberish, and the most I could tell was that it was waiting on a dbus reply to a Hello message. _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx