Re: Fedora 32 Firefox and DNS over HTTPS

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On 11/28/19 8:36 PM, Jakub Jelen wrote:
On Wed, 2019-11-27 at 15:17 -0800, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 04:43:06PM -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
In the upcoming Fedora 32, is Firefox defaulting to DNS over HTTPS
(RFC
8484)?
No. firefox in fedora will not default enable this.

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1751410#c2
Great to hear that Fedora is shielding us from these half-baked ideas
(or contracts?).

Last time it was unsolicited browser extension, now it is DoH to
CloudFlare servers. What will be next? I recommend the following
thread:

https://twitter.com/paulvixie/status/1198013742493028353

Many users are used to Firefox now. But was there some discussion about
providing some more privacy-focused browser?

But then have you ever been in the privacy debates at the IETF?  I have and lost a couple on very stubborn privacy proponents that just don't want to see some tech come to reality because of some vague privacy risk when there are so many worst things (e.g. IDEAS BOF from a few years back).

I am having one right now with Unmanned Aircraft RemoteID (see the TM-RID BOF from IETF106).  FAA 'owns' all navigable airspace, like maybe 1" above your lawn and roof up to the top of the mesosphere. The craft has to be positively identifiable.  No matter what YOU want.  Now who the operator is is another matter.  Mrs. Bitty can't be allowed to harass the kids down the block for flying a UA in the park behind her home.  But an authorized safety official needs to know who to contact to get that UA out of an emergency situation.  A tough set of public/privacy issues.  Those of us working on this for some time understand this.  Grandstanding does not help.  Nor do things like DoH 'help'.

And btw, this is pretty much the case for ALL Civil Aircraft Administrations (CAA) around the world.

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