Re: Modem/Router/Router -

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On 14Apr2019 18:41, Bob Goodwin <bobgoodwin@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On 04/14/19 17:38, Samuel Sieb wrote:
If you can't disable the wifi on the modem, then you can just ignore it.  Connect the WAN port on your router to the ethernet port on the modem.  You end up with double NAT, but it should still work.
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Yeah, I think it's a poor design for the application, I found no way to shut it off. We have been connecting to the WAN on my router. All they have is what appears to be two identical Ethernet portss on the modem-router, both seem to work for conncting my Ethernet LAN. However I have not been able to pass that data through my router to the LAN or the wifi signal. Their wifi signal is what the iPhone and iPads are using now ... I may be doing something wrong in the security configuration?

We do what you're wanting. Ignoring, for now, turning off the wifi on their router, we run our own firewall inside the ISP router(s). If nothing else it gives us complete control, and makes us ISP tech agnostic.

Our setup also has two distinct DHCP arrangements, because we've got two ISPs.

Our setup is like this:

 sat-modem <-> FW <-> 4G-modem
               ^
               |
               V
               LAN

Hoping you're using a fixed width font here :-) All though arrows are ethernet cables.

Our firewall runs OpenBSD (I will use PF instead of iptables any day), but anything good will do.

On the satellite side the firewall runs DHCP - it always gets the same address but the DHCP is part of the link setup at the far end - it has to happen or their switching doesn't start routing stuff. And on the satellite side we run NAT on our ourbound traffic - the ISP gives us a private address and our own LAN addresses are of course meaningless to them. Of course, since the ISP gives us a private address they also run NAT at their end. It all works fine.

On the 4G side the firewall runs a static address to the 4G modem, which is your conventional local-ethetnet+wifi device - we run that as a distinct subnet. Because the 4G modem itself does NAT, we don't bother NATing on the 4G FW interface - it is a plain static route direct from the interface setup. We don't need to NAT on the FW because we own the 4g modem interior net.

We run our own wifi network inside attached to the "LAN" above; the FW provides the DHCP; we just use an Airport in bridge mode.

Cheers,
Cameron Simpson <cs@xxxxxxxxxx>
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