> Why do you need to set the LANG? to get the error message in English to post to this list. > Have you checked the journal for any messages? I guess this is what matters: AVC avc: denied { create } for pid=6267 comm="passwd" name="nshadow" scontext=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:passwd_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tcontext=unconfined_u:object_r:etc_t:s0 tclass=file permissive=0 Jan 09 09:05:16 gamma su[6232]: (to root) fred on pts/0 Jan 09 09:05:16 gamma audit[6232]: CRED_ACQ pid=6232 uid=1000 auid=1000 ses=6 subj=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 msg='op=PAM:setcred grantors=pam_unix acct="root" exe="/usr/bin/su" hostname=gamma addr=? terminal=pts/0 res=success' Jan 09 09:05:16 gamma su[6232]: pam_systemd(su-l:session): Cannot create session: Already running in a session Jan 09 09:05:16 gamma su[6232]: pam_unix(su-l:session): session opened for user root by (uid=1000) Jan 09 09:05:16 gamma audit[6232]: USER_START pid=6232 uid=1000 auid=1000 ses=6 subj=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 msg='op=PAM:session_open grantors=pam_keyinit,pam_keyinit,pam_limits,pam_systemd,pam_unix,pam_xauth acct="root" exe="/usr/bin/su" hostname=gam> Jan 09 09:05:44 gamma audit[1]: SERVICE_STOP pid=1 uid=0 auid=4294967295 ses=4294967295 subj=system_u:system_r:init_t:s0 msg='unit=fprintd comm="systemd" exe="/usr/lib/systemd/systemd" hostname=? addr=? terminal=? res=success' Jan 09 09:06:04 gamma audit[6267]: AVC avc: denied { create } for pid=6267 comm="passwd" name="nshadow" scontext=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:passwd_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tcontext=unconfined_u:object_r:etc_t:s0 tclass=file permissive=0 Jan 09 09:06:04 gamma audit[6267]: USER_CHAUTHTOK pid=6267 uid=0 auid=1000 ses=6 subj=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:passwd_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 msg='op=PAM:chauthtok grantors=? acct="root" exe="/usr/bin/passwd" hostname=gamma addr=? terminal=pts/0 res=failed' Jan 09 09:06:04 gamma passwd[6267]: gkr-pam: couldn't update the login keyring password: no old password was entered > Also, what is the result of "echo $?" run right after the passwd attempt? 1 _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx