On 12/4/18 1:54 PM, stan wrote: > On Tue, 4 Dec 2018 15:28:13 -0500 > Fred Smith <fredex@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> there seems to be a widespread desire to make UIs so minimal that >> no one can figure out how to use them. Not to single out anyone, but >> the Gnome-3 people seem to be on that bandwagon too. No offense meant >> to any particular person(s), its just that I don't see the value in >> oversimplification. > > I think it is because of mobiles. The developers try to fit things on > the small real estate, and so make things deeper. It's the problem > with having the same interface for desktops, laptops, and mobiles. > They are trying to build a single interface that can be used on all > platforms versus having an interface optimized for each platform, for > people who switch between platforms often. I presume they think the > learning curve for multiple platform interfaces is more costly than the > diminished user interface on larger screens. I think attempted standardization is a factor. I also think a lot of it is laziness in supporting multiple displays. The problem I see is at this point the symbols are getting far too abstract for many people and there seems to be no steering group that accepts comments or complaints. After all, an icon's purpose is to obviate textual explanations. Obscure icons defeat that intent. Perhaps it's just better to harass the developers. The problem is they've gotten very good at ignoring user comments. I remember the old, symbolic UK "Road Work" signs. Some (such as myself) saw them as stick figures with shovels. Some saw them as stick figures fighting with cranky umbrellas (those in the UK know what I mean). From context, it was always clear that they were shovels. I mean, why on Earth would you need a sign next to the M5 to warn people about bad umbrellas anyway? But I'm an engineer, so I suppose I don't think like most people. :-p While I'm not a fan of bureaucracy in any form, it might be time for ANSI or ISC to create a committee to address UI issues such as this. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigital ricks@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx - - AIM/Skype: therps2 ICQ: 226437340 Yahoo: origrps2 - - - - Change is inevitable, except from a vending machine. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
