On Sun, Nov 18, 2018 at 09:56:24PM -0600, Rex Dieter wrote:
Juan R. de Silva wrote:
As far as I can see from his comment he only disaprove some GNOME UI
decisions not GNOME entirely.
kind of comment is not welcome on the mailing list.
Well, IMHO his is entitled to have his opinion. His comment is on topic
and in the right list.
Your statement instead is quite a police like rebuke and to my taste is
not welcome either.
I support the response that comments of that nature are not welcome. It
went beyond just criticizing a specific idea, but a whole class of
people and/or their backgrounds. That is not up for debate.
Well, he did used irony or sarcasm, if your prefer. However the meaning
of it in the context of conversation was clearly directed to some
DECISIONS made by whoever was responcible for them. But he defenitely did
not touch any personalities in particular.
And I cannot see in his comment anything about anybody's in particular
background
They are suggesting all gnome designers are bad in this regard, exactly.
It's a generalization and is not about a specific idea (to criticize).
He's suggesting - at best - that gnome/gimp designers in general (not
even all of them) are pursuing the wrong concept - it's clearly not
about what these programmers are doing in their private life. The joke
obviously was about the ideas they're trying to materialize in their
work on Gnome/Gimp ..
Such discourse is clearly neither considerate or respectful, and goes
against both the letter and spirit of the fedora code of conduct.
Irony and sarcasm are rarely considered "considerate or respectful" by
...
IMHO, some people should stop being too vigilant.
It is sarcasm at the expense of other people (again, not about ideas, but
*people*).
As said above: fully wrong. The joke obviously was about ideas. Please
read it the context where it was written. And besides: since when do
ideas appear independently of humans?
In the end it all comes down to a few problems some of you seem to
have with people speaking freely.
If anyone feels they need to talk like that, please do it
elsewhere. Again, it is not welcome here.
I see.
Regards,
Wolfgang
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