On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 7:45 PM, Rick Stevens <ricks@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Huh? They're just configuration-restricted PC-style laptops. There's > nothing magical about the hardware anymore. There's no "IWM" chip in > them. They're just laptops, which is why Linux will run on them. Ahh they're able to run Linux mainly because they still abstract their hardware with (U)EFI, ACPI and AHCI like other commodity hardware. But I can't fully agree with the idea there's nothing magical about their hardware - or rather I'd say unusual/proprietary/special. They are baking in special things that we cannot use, including the finger print reader, and T2 chip, and although I don't have anything new to test this on someone told me their recent Macbook (last year or two) they keyboard isn't recognized at all by Linux - which doesn't make any sense to me. Also, I know the latest Mac laptops released this summer now support Secure Boot. However, they lack the Microsoft UEFI signing key, so there aren't any Linux distros that can boot with Secure Boot out of the box, since pretty much everyone depends on shim.efi or something like it, being signed by the Microsoft UEFI signing key. And so far, near as I can tell, there isn't end user key management for Apple hardware. So consider that I have a frownie face when it comes to future support of any Linux on Apple hardware. By the way folks: "Mac OS X" or "OS X" are the older but acceptable terms, and the latest term is "macOS" If you're using something else, you're kinda being like Dr Evil in this scene: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeS-Xb5u4-U -- Chris Murphy _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
