Re: fc29 beta

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On Mon, 2018-10-01 at 15:00 +0100, John Pilkington wrote:
> On 01/10/18 11:07, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > On Sun, 2018-09-30 at 17:06 -0700, ToddAndMargo wrote:
> > > On 9/29/18 12:55 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > > 
> > > > F29 is not released. The guidelines for the User list state that it's
> > > > for discussion of the released version of Fedora (currently 28 and 27).
> > > > If you have comments on the future version the Test list is the place
> > > > to post them. Many people on the Test list do not read the User list
> > > > and won't see your comments, and cross-posting to multiple lists is
> > > > frowned on.
> > > 
> > > Hi Patrick,
> > > 
> > > Now this is a catch 22.
> > > 
> > > All of the commands I showed were Fedora 28 commands,
> > > so it was within scope of a released product.
> > > 
> > > The result was an available product in testing but
> > > not on the released list.
> > > 
> > > So, I would have been in scope if I had not had
> > > mentioned the result.
> > > 
> > > And, if I had posted on the testing group, I would
> > > have been told that code for a released version
> > > was not in scope.
> > 
> > I strongly doubt that. Helping those interested in upgrading to the
> > next version is one of the things the Test list is used for, and anyone
> > doing the upgrade should be on that list as a matter of course.
> > 
> > > Catch 22
> > > 
> > > When tips like I posted that are offered in friendship
> > > to help other that are constantly helping me cuts across
> > > two mail lists, would you please consider a tiny tweak
> > > to your guidelines?
> > 
> > First of all, they aren't *my* guidelines. I didn't write them. I'm not
> > a moderator or admin for this list (or for the Test list).
> > 
> > Your contention that all the commands you recommend are for F28 seems
> > to me irrelevant. The entire purpose of your post is to give
> > instructions on upgrading to F29, which is so far unreleased. There's
> > no Catch-22.
> > 
> > All of this is, needless to say, merely my opinion.
> > 
> > Cheers
> > 
> > poc
> 
> 
> I've just consulted google, as a new user might;  obvious hits told me 
> how to post and how to frame useful questions, but nothing about list 
> guidelines in the sense being used here.
> 
> The closest approach to what I wanted came up here: - I'm seeing a 
> hyperkitty page.
> 
> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/
> 
> where the descriptions are very brief - and don't rule out this post ;-)

A Google search for "fedora user list" and "fedora test list" give
these brief descriptions at:

https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/users.lists.fedoraproject.org/

https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/test.lists.fedoraproject.org/

I think the meaning is fairly clear, but I'm not trying to make an
issue of it. I've explained why I thought the OPs post was out of
place, and people can make up their own minds.

poc
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