On Mon, 2018-10-01 at 15:00 +0100, John Pilkington wrote: > On 01/10/18 11:07, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Sun, 2018-09-30 at 17:06 -0700, ToddAndMargo wrote: > > > On 9/29/18 12:55 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > > > > > F29 is not released. The guidelines for the User list state that it's > > > > for discussion of the released version of Fedora (currently 28 and 27). > > > > If you have comments on the future version the Test list is the place > > > > to post them. Many people on the Test list do not read the User list > > > > and won't see your comments, and cross-posting to multiple lists is > > > > frowned on. > > > > > > Hi Patrick, > > > > > > Now this is a catch 22. > > > > > > All of the commands I showed were Fedora 28 commands, > > > so it was within scope of a released product. > > > > > > The result was an available product in testing but > > > not on the released list. > > > > > > So, I would have been in scope if I had not had > > > mentioned the result. > > > > > > And, if I had posted on the testing group, I would > > > have been told that code for a released version > > > was not in scope. > > > > I strongly doubt that. Helping those interested in upgrading to the > > next version is one of the things the Test list is used for, and anyone > > doing the upgrade should be on that list as a matter of course. > > > > > Catch 22 > > > > > > When tips like I posted that are offered in friendship > > > to help other that are constantly helping me cuts across > > > two mail lists, would you please consider a tiny tweak > > > to your guidelines? > > > > First of all, they aren't *my* guidelines. I didn't write them. I'm not > > a moderator or admin for this list (or for the Test list). > > > > Your contention that all the commands you recommend are for F28 seems > > to me irrelevant. The entire purpose of your post is to give > > instructions on upgrading to F29, which is so far unreleased. There's > > no Catch-22. > > > > All of this is, needless to say, merely my opinion. > > > > Cheers > > > > poc > > > I've just consulted google, as a new user might; obvious hits told me > how to post and how to frame useful questions, but nothing about list > guidelines in the sense being used here. > > The closest approach to what I wanted came up here: - I'm seeing a > hyperkitty page. > > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/ > > where the descriptions are very brief - and don't rule out this post ;-) A Google search for "fedora user list" and "fedora test list" give these brief descriptions at: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/users.lists.fedoraproject.org/ https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/test.lists.fedoraproject.org/ I think the meaning is fairly clear, but I'm not trying to make an issue of it. I've explained why I thought the OPs post was out of place, and people can make up their own minds. poc _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx