On Wed, 2018-09-19 at 23:18 +0000, Rick Stevens wrote: > 95% of the time "dnf --refresh -y upgrade" won't cause issues, but > it's that 5% of the time where it DOES screw up that will drive you > barking mad. Microsoft has had some absolutely horrific problems > doing this "upgrade on shutdown" behind the scenes crud and THEY have > utter control of ALL the software being upgraded during the process. > That's not necessarily the case with any community-supported system > with multiple repositories such as Fedora. Even just the *very* basic side of things: When I shutdown a computer, it's the end of me working on it, and I want it to switch off and finish pronto. Not spend the next random number of minutes, or hours, still doing something while I'm waiting for it. Both Windows and Mac suffer from this update at shutdown and bootup mess. It also means that places that never shut down or reboot end up with un-updated systems. You want scheduled updates, or centrally triggered updates, for them. And that approach works well for systems where the users do shutdown or reboot, as well. _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
