On 09/06/18 10:03, ToddAndMargo wrote: > On 09/05/2018 05:48 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: >> On 09/06/18 06:31, ToddAndMargo wrote: >>> On 09/05/2018 01:46 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: >>>> On Wed, 5 Sep 2018 09:32:42 -0700 >>>> ToddAndMargo wrote: >>>> >>>>> The only time I ever updated firmware on an SSD was >>>>> when Intel was making me jump through hoops to >>>>> try to prove that it wasn't them. >>>> >>>> The crucial (I think it was crucial) SSD I got a long >>>> time ago had a bug in the firmware that implemented >>>> the SMART checks that made it stop writing data >>>> after 5184 hours of operation, that was fun when >>>> it happened to all the early purchasers at about the >>>> same time :-). A firmware update was definitely required >>>> for that. (Fortunately it didn't corrupt anything, >>>> so it started working OK after the firmware update). >>> >>> I would have passed out holding my breath! >>> >>> That is why I like and sell Samsung. The stinkers >>> just work. They cost about 30% more too, but >>> are far cheaper when you factor all the problems >>> with other suppliers into the fray. >>> >> >> With regards to Crucial, Tom did say the experience was "a long time ago". I've been >> running Crucial drives now for over a year with no issues what so ever. >> And, FWIW, if you need to update their firmware it can be done from bootable media. >> No windows required. >> >> I don't have the latest and greatest HW with the fastest of all CPUs. But my systems >> all boot from between 10 seconds to 20 seconds. >> >> Here in Taiwan the 1TB Crucial is half the price of Samsung. Samsung's performance >> is somewhat better but for my use case not a factor. > > Hi Tom, I am Ed, not Tom. > > Good news on the Crucial front. When I sell something like this to a > customer, it MUST work without issue. If not it 1) makes me look > like an idiot (99% of my customers are from referrals), and 2) > costs me out the nose in free parts and labor. A small sample size, I've not had an issue with any of the 30+ Crucial drives I've installed. Also, > > 1/2 price huh? Does this have anything to do with tariffs? > > It seems to be more of a "perceived" quality issue and associated mark-ups. My 1/2 statement was based on shopping experience 6 months ago. Just went and checked today's prices (consumer) and found the difference to be only about 40% more. This on the popular online shopping outlets. If I would go to 光華商場, were you can negotiate, I could probably get that down to 25%. I would not be able to get any discount on Crucial products (I had tried 6 months ago). A wholesaler would probably have more leverage with Samsung depending on their volume. FWIW, I could probably write a paper on how shopping for electronics in Taiwan has changed from 1992 to date. :-) -- Conjecture is just a conclusion based on incomplete information. It isn't a fact.
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