Re: F27->F28 no new kernel

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On 08/01/2018 12:06 AM, Frank Elsner wrote:
> On Wed, 1 Aug 2018 08:50:27 +0200 Frank Elsner wrote:
>> On Tue, 31 Jul 2018 23:15:57 -0700 Samuel Sieb wrote:
>>> On 07/31/2018 10:57 PM, Frank Elsner wrote:
>>>> Can you please explain the line
>>>> 2018-08-01T05:53:36Z INFO Installed: kernel-4.17.9-200.fc28.i686
>>>> from  /var/log/dnf.rpm.log of my 32bit F28 system?
>>>
>>> What is there to explain?  That is version 4.17.9 of the kernel, 32-bit 
>>> non-PAE, built for F28.
>>> Do you have more than 4GB of RAM in the computer?
>>
>> Ok, my fault. This old system with 2GB runs a non-PAE kernel.
>>
>> But on my TP x230i with 8GB running F28 file /var/log/dnf.rpm.log shows 
>> 2018-07-23T08:41:52Z INFO Installed: kernel-PAE-4.17.7-100.fc27.i686
>> ^^^^^^^^^^                           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> 
> Forget this. That was before the upgrade to F28. Overlooked that
> 
>> And yumex shows kernel-4.17.9-200.fc28 for arch i686 available in updates repo.
>> So, my question is: What could prevent dnf from offering this version for update?
> 
> This question is still awaiting an answer.

Frank, we've said this before and I don't understand why you're
not getting it:

Starting with F28, 32-bit PAE kernels are NOT being built and placed in
the the standard repos. The new F28 kernel you show is a pure i686,
32-bit kernel and _not_ PAE.

You've installed a PAE kernel. Yum/dnf can't find a match because there
are no PAE kernels for F28. The decision to not build PAE kernels was
made by the Red Hat/Fedora guiding committee. I guess the assumption
was that most people had migrated to 64-bit systems for the most part or
the majority of 32-bit machines had less than 4GB of RAM.

Your references to a "new" 4.17.7 PAE kernel keep overlooking that it's
for F27. If you need PAE, you will have to either keep using an F27 PAE
kernel (and updates will end when F27 goes end-of-life when F29 is
released) or download the F28 kernel source RPMs and build your own PAE
kernel. It's not hard to do if you've every built a kernel before (it's
just one flag in the configuration).

Perhaps you can convince the RPM Fusion people to build PAE kernels
and place them in their repos. I don't know.
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