The guidelines quoted are also a bit dated. Modern charge controllers do a lot of control of the battery conditions based on temperature. If you look at your battery, you will see that there are 4 contacts. two are the charge current and two are to a temperature sensor. The charge controller monitors both current and voltage during charge, and temperature is used to adjust the charge current. In addition, when you are plugged in, if the equipment designer chose the appropriate charge controller, the battery is essentially disconnected from the load during charging. This allows charging to proceed with the appropriate control of the current, voltage and temperature. In essence the charge controller incorporates the switching to control when the battery is used vs the line for the load. Other things are incorporated into the battery management that includes switching control for alternate voltages in some cases and max discharge setting. Many of these charge controllers are propriatary, so you may not find the full information on the ones you can find in your laptop or cellphone, and many of the "modules" don't include the advanced features or have them turned off or disconnected due to the complexity of wiring and understanding the settings. All of this boils down to the fact that modern battery usage is much more complex than just charge/discharge cycles and depth of discharge. On Mon, 2018-05-21 at 20:56 -0700, Gordon Messmer wrote: > On 05/21/2018 09:06 AM, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: > > > > I'd try retraining the battery for longer run-time until empty: > > Depleting the battery fully does not extend the run-time of the > battery. It will sometimes re-calibrate the battery controller and > improve its estimates, but it does reduce the battery's ability to > hold > a charge. > > https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/04/ask-ars-the-best-way-to-use-a > -lithium-ion-battery-redux/ > _______________________________________________ > users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelin > es > List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@li > sts.fedoraproject.org/message/OU2GRNDH5TX5QUX7J6AQRPYRGPAX74AT/ _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/message/OODWMX5IYTNPISUY4GPN2VTQALLS5FIJ/