I use SLiM. I read somewhere that there is no further development and it will stop working eventually but happily Fedora still packages it so as long as that holds, I guess I am fine. https://github.com/iwamatsu/slim Ranjan On Sun, 20 May 2018 13:58:36 -0400 Beartooth <beartooth@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > I keep three PCs on my desk, running Fedora behind a KVM switch: #1 is > my present biggest fastest, #2 its predecessor, and #3 that one's > predecessor; I try try keep them as similar as is feasible. > > They've all been having troubles for months, which have only gotten worse. > > Under F27, they kept filling up with some sort of cruft, to the point > of refusing dnf upgrade; but when I found any of the cruft, it was in > places where I dared not lay about me with a cyber-battleaxe. I jumped > to F28 the day of release. > > At this point, none of the three is usable at all without some dodge or > other. > > #2 and #3 have each been wiped, twice, with different releases of DBAN, > followed each time with a netinstall of F28 with Mate, and then dnf > upgrade daily. All their boot messages show green OK. Those end with > "Started Light Display Manager." > > Usually they proceed to a login box in front of the F28 display of blue > light-conducting fibers. That accepts my password, churns a little way, > and ends with a monitor full of blue horizontal lines, plus a few white > lines in the middle and at the bottom; there is nothing legible. > > By doing Alt-Ctrl-F2, I get a display which lets me log in as root; I > keep doing dnf upgrades, and trying startx, every day. I also reboot > whenever there's a kernel change. > > Startx always flashes a couple times, then fails with a few lines of > text, beginning with an attempt to adopt my monitor size (called "1920 > 1080" -- not 1920x1080),losing contact, and ending by saying that the > Xserver "terminated successfully." > > I'd like to try replacing LDM with something else; how do I do that?? > (I like Mate well, and would prefer not to swap it out,too) > > Finally, #1 has two F28 kernels -- which do no better than on #2 nor #3 > -- and a rescue kernel from F26. Sic. Twenty-six, not 27 nor 28. But > that rescue kernel does support almost my whole GUI (I miss Pan badly.), > and I don't have to descend to the console. > > #1 got F28 by upgrading with dnf from F27, and still has a lot of stuff > on it that I'd rather copy to #2 and #3 directly than by way of solid > state storage, if I dare risk malware. (I don't know where else all the > cruft could have come from, apart from malware, but I hope someone here > does.) > -- > Beartooth Staffwright, Not Quite Clueless Power User > Remember I know little (precious little!) of where up is. > > _______________________________________________ > users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/message/QK72AMLA44OO4KUT4OQI2MQ446HCW5UF/ -- Important Notice: This mailbox is ignored: e-mails are set to be deleted on receipt. Please respond to the mailing list if appropriate. For those needing to send personal or professional e-mail, please use appropriate addresses. _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/message/ON7NPB7GXDRM6DQBE66TI7PJMH6NY5PX/